The timeline revisited

[Vertigo Swirl]

Once again you are accusing Martin Grime of lying. I find that quite distasteful; not to mention libellous.



FALSE ALERTS

'False' positives are always a possibility; to date Eddie has not so indicated
operationally or in training.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Can you please explain why you are so willing to suspend your ABC of crime-solving when it comes to the owner of the dogs making such claims about their reliability?

[G-Unit]

Try reading it again.. I haven't..

As for your quote you need to post the whole paragragh. You are absolutely wrong.  Eddie has alerted many times.. It cannot be proven if all those alerts are,  correct..or false. It's basic common sense that some seem to lack..

Yeah yeah yeah. Same old same old. Slurs being cast by 'armchair experts' who have no idea what they're talking about imo.

[Mr Gray]

Can you please explain why you are so willing to suspend your ABC of crime-solving when it comes to the owner of the dogs making such claims about their reliability?

Gunit needs to read the sentence following the one she's, quoted where grime clarifies he's talking about road kill.. She's made a massive error

[G-Unit]

Can you please explain why you are so willing to suspend your ABC of crime-solving when it comes to the owner of the dogs making such claims about their reliability?

I'm well aware that not all policemen are honourable people. I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Martin Grime wasn't professional, experienced and honest.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm well aware that not all policemen are honourable people. I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Martin Grime wasn't professional, experienced and honest.

So because you're not aware of any stains on his character or professionalism (and this from a position of almost total ignorance of the man on a personal and professional basis) you are able to dispense quite happily of the ABC mantra which you are so strict to apply to others. How does that make any sense? 

[Eleanor]

This is just a game of words now.  Some of us are better at it than others.

[G-Unit]

Gunit needs to read the sentence following the one she's, quoted where grime clarifies he's talking about road kill.. She's made a massive error

You need to read on...

"My experience as a trainer is that false alerts are normally caused by handler
cueing. All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour.
This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops
handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and
investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour
other than to direct the search."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Brietta]

You need to read on...

"My experience as a trainer is that false alerts are normally caused by handler
cueing. All indications by the dog are preceded by a change in bahaviour.
This increased handler confidence in the response. This procedure also stops
handlers 'cueing' and indication. The dogs are allowed to 'free search' and
investigate areas of interest. The handler does not influence their behaviour
other than to direct the search."
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

Are you the only poster on the McCann boards who has not watched the videos of of the cadaver dog in action.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm well aware that not all policemen are honourable people. I have seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Martin Grime wasn't professional, experienced and honest.

BTW, I've seen something to suggest that he was not averse to claiming astoundingly large expenses for himself and his services.  Jersey was it not?  And what did the Jersey police get for the almost £100k they had to shell out for a few days work?  And would they have been quite so willing to pay such princely sums had Grime not made a name for himself and his dogs by exploiting his involvement in high profile cases such as the McCann case and by making such unproveable claims about his dogs' abilities?  You may call that professional, experienced and honest, well inasmuch as blowing his own trumpet and making unsubstantiated claims about his worth in the field, then yes I'm sure he was very expert indeed. 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html

[G-Unit]

Are you the only poster on the McCann boards who has not watched the videos of of the cadaver dog in action.

I have watched the videos and, just like other posters, I'm not qualified to reach conclusions about them.

[G-Unit]

BTW, I've seen something to suggest that he was not averse to claiming astoundingly large expenses for himself and his services.  Jersey was it not?  And what did the Jersey police get for the almost £100k they had to shell out for a few days work?  And would they have been quite so willing to pay such princely sums had Grime not made a name for himself and his dogs by exploiting his involvement in high profile cases such as the McCann case and by making such unproveable claims about his dogs' abilities?  You may call that professional, experienced and honest, well inasmuch as blowing his own trumpet and making unsubstantiated claims about his worth in the field, then yes I'm sure he was very expert indeed. 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html

I think you'll find (if you read the story you provided the link to) that Grime was there for a lot longer than 'a few days', and his fees were not excessive compared to those charged by UK police forces.

[Mr Gray]

I have watched the videos and, just like other posters, I'm not qualified to reach conclusions about them.

You dint need any qualifications to see grime calling eddie back.. Nor to see the posters in the Renault... Nor to see Eddie did not alert to CC... Etc etc

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think you'll find (if you read the story you provided the link to) that Grime was there for a lot longer than 'a few days', and his fees were not excessive compared to those charged by UK police forces.

Nice work if you can get it, and unlicensed too!  what possible justification can there be for charging that amount of money and spending that amount of time to find a piece of coconut and a sex tissue with a barky dog?

[Eleanor]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html

It appears that Martin Grime spent much of his time on Jersey working for Harper at £650 a day when his dogs were not required at all.

[Vertigo Swirl]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html

It appears that Martin Grime spent much of his time on Jersey working for Harper at £650 a day when his dogs were not required at all.

What was he actually doing for a 3rd of a year then?