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Offline Daisy

The National Archives
« on: June 26, 2019, 07:24:21 AM »
I have just seen a news report on BBC Breakfast about Ian Brady. The journalist mentioned she obtained documents from the National Archives. Apparently every month thousands of documents are released to the National Archives which the public have access to. I went on the website and put in a search for Jeremy Bamber and there are over 240 documents held on him. Has anyone thought of obtaining these to see what they contain?

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Re: The National Archives
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2019, 09:25:00 AM »
I have just seen a news report on BBC Breakfast about Ian Brady. The journalist mentioned she obtained documents from the National Archives. Apparently every month thousands of documents are released to the National Archives which the public have access to. I went on the website and put in a search for Jeremy Bamber and there are over 240 documents held on him. Has anyone thought of obtaining these to see what they contain?

Buried treasure probably... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=jeremy+bamber

Offline Myster

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2019, 06:39:11 PM »
The difference between Brady and Bamber is that the former is dead, so no need to keep his documentation out of the public domain.  Most, if not all DPP files on Bamber however are closed until 2054, unless there are sound reasons for revealing them before then.  So it appears that many clogs will be popped and buckets kicked before we're any the wiser.

A typical Brady page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16947590

A typical Bamber page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1687143   

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Re: The National Archives
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2019, 07:19:15 PM »
The difference between Brady and Bamber is that the former is dead, so no need to keep his documentation out of the public domain.  Most, if not all DPP files on Bamber however are closed until 2054, unless there are sound reasons for revealing them before then.  So it appears that many clogs will be popped and buckets kicked before we're any the wiser.

A typical Brady page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16947590

A typical Bamber page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1687143


Absolutely.   Myra Hindley's papers were released after she died, and are available for public perusal at the National Archives.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2019, 07:31:21 PM »

Am I mad in thinking that Jeremy Bamber might be innocent?

Offline Myster

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2019, 08:38:52 PM »
Am I mad in thinking that Jeremy Bamber might be innocent?
Dare I say Yes!  @)(++(*

Offline Eleanor

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 08:50:23 PM »
Dare I say Yes!  @)(++(*

Yer.  Course you can.  But I have to say that I'm not known for my sanity.

Offline Daisy

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2019, 09:26:52 PM »
The difference between Brady and Bamber is that the former is dead, so no need to keep his documentation out of the public domain.  Most, if not all DPP files on Bamber however are closed until 2054, unless there are sound reasons for revealing them before then.  So it appears that many clogs will be popped and buckets kicked before we're any the wiser.

A typical Brady page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16947590

A typical Bamber page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1687143

Thanks for making things clear. However I thought all documents relating to an individual could only be kept away from the public for 30 years and that time frame has expired.  Why then arenít these being released until 2054? If for any reason there is evidence of innocence and they know it and are keeping the documents hidden then that is corruption.

Offline Caroline

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2019, 12:51:02 AM »
The difference between Brady and Bamber is that the former is dead, so no need to keep his documentation out of the public domain.  Most, if not all DPP files on Bamber however are closed until 2054, unless there are sound reasons for revealing them before then.  So it appears that many clogs will be popped and buckets kicked before we're any the wiser.

A typical Brady page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16947590

A typical Bamber page... https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1687143

It's highly unlikely that there are a pile of documents sitting in the archives that detail an elaborate plot to frame Bamber.

Offline Myster

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2019, 09:04:56 PM »
It's highly unlikely that there are a pile of documents sitting in the archives that detail an elaborate plot to frame Bamber.
The powers that be have probably seen all that Monsieur Teskowski has put online, including sensitive crime scene photos and decided that no way will anyone else have the opportunity to do the same until JB expires.

Offline thedarkman

Re: The National Archives
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2019, 11:24:15 PM »
These files are likely to be closed for 75 or even a hundred years. They will in any case be severely pruned and redacted; this is not America. To see what might happen, check out my Satpal Ram website, a 1986 murder.

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Re: The National Archives
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2019, 01:37:27 PM »
These files are likely to be closed for 75 or even a hundred years. They will in any case be severely pruned and redacted; this is not America. To see what might happen, check out my Satpal Ram website, a 1986 murder.

Thanks.   I hadn't heard of the Satpal Ram case. Always interesting  to learn something new, although I don't know whose website I've been reading!