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Offline Bullseye

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2019, 02:41:42 PM »
Why would the Jeremy Bamber forum not approve me as a member do you know?

I signed upto both this site and the bamber site around the same time, I’m sure I received an email to confirm my account here was set up and active but I received nothing for the bamber site, I tried logging in with the ID and password I’d used and it let me in ok.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2019, 03:44:04 PM »
Re the Bamber forum - The cracks are well and truly showing between Sandra, Nugnug and Gordo

In response to Sandra here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452103.html#msg452103

 Gordo30 posted:
“It doesn’t look out of place though, Jodi might have wanted a different form of relationship with her sister, friends and closeness to the point where she wanted to be more like her. She may have looked up to her sister and didn’t want to let her sister know there were problems

Nugnug posted the following at 1.44pm and edited it at 1.50pm
Re: The murder of 14 year-old schoolgirl Jodi Jones near Edinburgh on 30 June 2003
« Reply #4473 on: Today at 01:44 PM »
“what does not add p to me is she had been self harming rom the age of 8 and her mum seems to have only found out about it recently.

im men of somone in the same house as you was cuting themselves even if they did try and hide wouldent you notice at some time.
« Last Edit: Today at 01:50 PM by nugnug »

The above post have since been deleted but not for another couple of hours or so

Sandra replies:
I've never heard that she was claimed to have been self-harming from the age of 8 - that would have been round about the age she was when her dad died. I know she struggled for her first two years at high school - I always assumed the self-harm began in that period.
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452139.html#msg452139

Nugnug then tries to squirm out of what he’s written by deceptively posting the following:
oh soory missread the link i will delete that post.

i wonder hy he was reading her dairy was it just nosey or did he want to know somthing i doubt if she would of left it lying around so he must of looked for it.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,551.msg452140.html#msg452140

Here’s the links he’s referring to http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4195169.stm

How could he possibly have misread anything about an 8 year old JJ?


And note how he attempts to discredit on the Anniversary of JJ’s murder  *&^^&

Speaking of yesterday’s anniversary

Sandra Lean
@SandraLean5
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Jun 19
Replying to
@Julza40
 and
@jamesenglish0
We're hoping so, Julie-Anne. A new organisation "Long Road to Justice" is being launched on June 30th to try to push for a full case review for this case (and others).

https://mobile.twitter.com/Julza40/status/1141069216050765824
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2019, 12:45:03 PM »
I would be mindful that Sandra Lean is crafty.

She says here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQ7lnucUMI @ approx 39.12 (and listen to the inflection in her voice)

For what we’ve been allowed access to I would say there’s no doubt that Luke did not do this

But there’s always gonna be, at the back of your mind, what if they got this.. They would have used it - clearly...


She may sound convincing to some people but most certainly not to me.

And watch her face when she says, “they would have used it - clearly.

Would they? Do you think she’s being deceptive?

I’d have another listen to what Sandra Lean says about “stocky man” if I were you.

“Stocky man”

Was a matter of public record at least 17 days after the murder

Thursday 17 July 2003
DETECTIVES hunting the killer of Jodi Jones yesterday appealed for information about a young man dressed in dark clothes who was seen following the schoolgirl on the night she was murdered.
Two witnesses have called the murder incident room in Dalkeith, Midlothian, to report seeing the youth walking behind Jodi on the approach to the path where her body was found 16 days ago.
One of them claimed they saw the same man again a week later, on the evening that police staged a reconstruction of Jodi’s last known movements.
The calls, which are regarded by police as a significant development in their 17-day investigation, came within hours of Jodi’s mother, Judy, making an emotional public appeal for help in catching her daughter’s killer.
It is the first time officers have received a reported sighting of Jodi, 14, after she left her home in Easthouses, near Dalkeith, on the evening of 30 June, heading for a meeting with her boyfriend, Luke Mitchell.
Her body was found shortly before midnight on a track known as Roman Dyke, just a few hundred yards from her front door. She had been stabbed in what police described as a "frenzied" attack and her throat was cut.
Detective Inspector Tom Martin, one of the officers in the case, said: "This is a significant development for the inquiry team. We now have two independent witnesses who have given us good statements about seeing a young woman who is similar in description to Jodi.
"Both witnesses saw the girl walking in Easthouses Road towards the entrance to the Roman Dyke pathway at around 5pm and both also noticed a man walking closely behind the girl.
"Interestingly, one of the witnesses believes he then saw the same man again on Monday 7 July, one week later, the night of the police reconstruction.
"If this is the case, we need to trace this person as a matter of urgency as he may have seen something important on the night that Jodi died."
The man police are keen to trace is described as white, stocky and 5ft 7in to 5ft 10in tall. He had short, tidy brown or ginger hair, perhaps curly or wavy on top.
The witnesses said he appeared to be in his late teens or early 20s and was wearing a dark-coloured sweatshirt top, with maybe a hood, and dark trousers, possibly jogging bottoms. He may also have been carrying a backpack on his shoulder.
A week later, one of the witnesses thinks he saw the same man again in the same area, according to police who believe the person may be local. On that day at 5pm, police staged a reconstruction of Jodi’s last movements, with a policewoman taking the part of Jodi.
According to the male witness, the man was walking in Morris Road at about 6pm on the way to Easthouses Road. He was wearing a denim jacket and carrying a black laptop-style case or holdall.
The witness watched him meet two friends who were of about the same age, probably in their late teens, and saw the friends give each other "high-five" welcoming handshakes before pulling each other into a hug.
One of the young men was on a bicycle and was wearing shorts and the other appeared to be carrying a videotape. Both were wearing dark clothing and the group were standing in Morris Road, just past the Morris Club.
Mr Martin said: "This information is important and it is very helpful that we have two independent witnesses who saw a girl fitting Jodi’s description at a time when we might have expected Jodi to be in that area.
The man seen walking behind this girl could be a crucial witness and was seen again a week later meeting two friends. Who is this man? Do you recognise the description? Could it be you and your friends?
"If you think you know who any of these people may be, please call the police. If you think it may be you but you also think you saw nothing of importance, we still need to talk to you to help us build a complete picture of everyone who was in the area on the night Jodi was murdered."
The witnesses contacted police separately but gave strikingly similar accounts of their sighting of Jodi and the man walking closely behind.
Their calls came within 24 hours of an appeal by Jodi’s relatives for anyone with information that might help the investigation to search their conscience and come forward.
Two of Jodi’s aunts, Agnes Petkevicius and Diane Inkster, attended a press conference to read a statement by Jodi’s mother and speak of the family’s grief over her murder.
Police are still trying to trace a blonde woman with a high ponytail and a miniskirt who was pushing a child in a buggy along Easthouses Road in the direction of Jodi’s house on the evening of the murder.
If the other witness statements are correct, she would have passed Jodi and the man who was following her as she walked along the road.

https://www.scotsman.com/news-2-15012/police-seek-youth-who-trailed-jodi-1-656152


Could the reason Luke Mitchell did not push for disclosure regarding “stocky man” be the same reason Simon Hall didn’t push for disclosure on JamieB and the zenith burglary?
« Last Edit: July 03, 2019, 12:47:45 PM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2019, 02:07:22 AM »
Sandra Lean
@SandraLean5
You know you're rattling cages when people resort to personal attacks and lies. Gives me a warm glow!!!!
8:06 PM · Jun 3, 2019 · Twitter Web Client

https://mobile.twitter.com/SandraLean5/status/1135623855916158977

She no doubt hopes she’ll get a rise out of people like JJ’s brother so that she can use it against him at some point.

In 2007 she talked about trying to generate some anger https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BSgRnOo2cxI

Is there a pattern emerging?

« Last Edit: July 04, 2019, 02:13:13 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2019, 02:29:14 AM »
If the confession is indeed from Jodi’s brother of whom was clearly heavily shielded during the investigation

And rightly so!

Tayside Police forensic scientist Susan Ure spoke about the work carried out comparing bloodstains found at the murder scene and other reference samples, taken from members of her family and Luke Mitchel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4098795.stm
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2019, 02:29:55 AM »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #51 on: July 06, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »
Who confessed to the murder?


Corrine Mitchell said a “cop” told Sandra. She omitted to add whether or not he/she was a serving “cop.”


JE: And is there any signs of a retrial

CM: We’re hoping so because since he’s been in we’ve had new evidence umm we’ve had a confession and we’ve had a positive ID from someone seen behind Jodi and it’s the same person who confessed and so if the police or the courts can’t see that as a witness then

JE: Has that ever been put forward to the police, the courts

CM: No no no see it’s only come to light in the last few years
 
JE: So there’s a confession from somebody who actually did it

CM: Yes
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2019, 08:50:07 AM »
Corrine Mitchell said a “cop” told Sandra. She omitted to add whether or not he/she was a serving “cop.”


JE: And is there any signs of a retrial

CM: We’re hoping so because since he’s been in we’ve had new evidence umm we’ve had a confession and we’ve had a positive ID from someone seen behind Jodi and it’s the same person who confessed and so if the police or the courts can’t see that as a witness then

JE: Has that ever been put forward to the police, the courts

CM: No no no see it’s only come to light in the last few years
 
JE: So there’s a confession from somebody who actually did it

CM: Yes

@ approx 41.00 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

CM: Sandra had a cop come and that’s how we... he gave her the gist about the confession because it was him who actually took the confession

we’ve had a confession and we’ve had a positive ID from someone seen behind Jodi and it’s the same person who confessed
« Last Edit: July 11, 2019, 08:52:11 AM by Nicholas »
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Who Confessed to the Murder?
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2019, 10:57:37 AM »
@ approx 41.00 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t6ysPeri0O4

CM: Sandra had a cop come and that’s how we... he gave her the gist about the confession because it was him who actually took the confession

we’ve had a confession and we’ve had a positive ID from someone seen behind Jodi and it’s the same person who confessed

Sandra leans judgement regarding ANY murder confession should be taken with a pinch of salt
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