Were The McCann Children more vulnerable than the others?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The group were between a rock and a hard place. Not enough checks and they heightened the chance of being charged with neglect, too many and the window of opportunity was too small. While only the McCanns benefited from a longer window of opportunity for the abduction , the whole group benefited from more checks....so more checks it was.

The McCanns "benefited" from a longer window of opportunity for the abduction by having their child abducted.  Nice.  Which of the checks are you thinking never actually happened then? 
Here you go
20:35 McCanns leave 5A and go to Tapas
20:40 Jane Tanner arrives followed by the Oldfields.
20:45 Russell O'Brien arrives
20:55 Matthew Oldfield back to apartments, meets the Payne/Webster on their way down.
21:00 Matt returns to Tapas
21:05 Gerry goes to the apartments.
21:15 Jane goes to the apartments; Gerry is chatting to Jez.
21:20 Jane returns to Tapas (Gerry has returned)
21:25 Matt and Russ go to apartments. Russell stays there.
21:30 Matt checks 5A.
21:35 Matt to Tapas.
21:40 Jane goes to her apartment.
21:45 Russelll to Tapas.
22.00 Kate McCann to apartment

[faithlilly]

The McCanns "benefited" from a longer window of opportunity for the abduction by having their child abducted.  Nice.  Which of the checks are you thinking never actually happened then? 
Here you go
20:35 McCanns leave 5A and go to Tapas
20:40 Jane Tanner arrives followed by the Oldfields.
20:45 Russell O'Brien arrives
20:55 Matthew Oldfield back to apartments, meets the Payne/Webster on their way down.
21:00 Matt returns to Tapas
21:05 Gerry goes to the apartments.
21:15 Jane goes to the apartments; Gerry is chatting to Jez.
21:20 Jane returns to Tapas (Gerry has returned)
21:25 Matt and Russ go to apartments. Russell stays there.
21:30 Matt checks 5A.
21:35 Matt to Tapas.
21:40 Jane goes to her apartment.
21:45 Russelll to Tapas.
22.00 Kate McCann to apartment

I think both Matt and Gerry left the table at 20.55 and Gerry did the check, not Matt. When Diane Webster arrived at the tapas around 9 she said she didn’t remember Matt or Gerry being there... “That night she judges to have arrived at the restaurant close to 21:00, in the company of the PAYNE couple.
- That, at that time, the whole group were at the restaurant. The witness did not recall, but thinks that perhaps Gerald and MATT had not been in the restaurant along with the other members of the group.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think both Matt and Gerry left the table at 20.55 and Gerry did the check, not Matt. When Diane Webster arrived at the tapas around 9 she said she didn’t remember Matt or Gerry being there... “That night she judges to have arrived at the restaurant close to 21:00, in the company of the PAYNE couple.
- That, at that time, the whole group were at the restaurant. The witness did not recall, but thinks that perhaps Gerald and MATT had not been in the restaurant along with the other members of the group.

Where do you think Matt went then?  Is that the only check you believe to be a lie?

[faithlilly]

Where do you think Matt went then?  Is that the only check you believe to be a lie?

I believe he checked on his own children, just not the McCann’s children.

[G-Unit]

The forum appears to recognise the risk of unwanted intruders if you leave your holiday apartment unlocked yet at least half the forum also appears to believe an abduction is virtually impossible because of the timeline, yet these very same doubters also appear to believe that the timeline vastly overstates the number of checks, so as I see it this logic poses a bit of a conundrum.

Nobody can prove the aoartment was left unlocked or how frequent the checks were. If the apartment was unlocked then the risk of intrusion existed, but equally so did the risk of a child getting out. The reported frequency of the checks diminishes the possibility of both imo. The conundrum was created solely by the T9. All anyone else can do is highlight it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I believe he checked on his own children, just not the McCann’s children.

And that's it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nobody can prove the aoartment was left unlocked or how frequent the checks were. If the apartment was unlocked then the risk of intrusion existed, but equally so did the risk of a child getting out. The reported frequency of the checks diminishes the possibility of both imo. The conundrum was created solely by the T9. All anyone else can do is highlight it.

IMO the conundrum exists because sceptics want their cake and eat it.  They want the McCanns and their friends to be neglectful and not to be doing frequent checks, they want there to be no opportunity in the timeline for an abductor to enter the apartment, they want to heap extra criticism on the McCanns for giving a putuative abductor extra opportunity to strike by leaving the door unlocked.  There is no conundrum created by the Tapas group's version of events IMO. 

[faithlilly]

And that's it?

I also believe that Matt did not do the 9.30 check either. That was Gerry.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I also believe that Matt did not do the 9.30 check either. That was Gerry.

OK thanks.  Let's face it, this plan couldnt have been executed without the full cooperation of all 7 friends so it appears you believe they all conspired to cover up.  The next question is - why would they all do that?

[Angelo222]

Please follow forum rules and avoid any potentially accusatory remarks.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Please follow forum rules and avoid any potentially accusatory remarks.

What accusatory remark did I make that hadn't already been made?

[Erngath]

Please follow forum rules and avoid any potentially accusatory remarks.

Forum rules.were broken by Faithlilly making an unpleasant accusation to me.
Can I ask why her post has not been removed?
Carllymichelles unpleasant post has been removed.

[faithlilly]

Forum rules.were broken by Faithlilly making an unpleasant accusation to me.
Can I ask why her post has not been removed?
Carllymichelles unpleasant post has been removed.

What unpleasant accusation?

[Vertigo Swirl]

What unpleasant accusation?

You seem to believe that all the Tapas Group covered up Gerry's covert check at 9.30pm - please explain why you think they would do this?

[jassi]

You seem to believe that all the Tapas Group covered up Gerry's covert check at 9.30pm - please explain why you think they would do this?

Must have missed this.  Is there more ?