Forensic Tests

[Holly Goodhead]

Other than the dogs (thread already created) what forensic tests have been carried out?

The window/shutters were tested for fingerprints and revealed KM's only? 

Some items were DNA tested using LCN? 

[John]

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[Mr Gray]

Other than the dogs (thread already created) what forensic tests have been carried out?

The window/shutters were tested for fingerprints and revealed KM's only? 

Some items were DNA tested using LCN?

As I understand  there were other smudged prints on the shutters

[Holly Goodhead]

As I understand  there were other smudged prints on the shutters

Thanks.  The emphasis seems to be on the shutters.  What about the window, patio doors, child gate and gate leading to road? 

As I understand it the shutter (window?) had recently been cleaned hence the prints were potentially valuable?

What about glove prints?

[Mr Gray]

Thanks.  The emphasis seems to be on the shutters.  What about the window, patio doors, child gate and gate leading to road? 

As I understand it the shutter (window?) had recently been cleaned hence the prints were potentially valuable?

What about glove prints?

Without starting a war... As I understand the crime scene analysis was not thorough ...Maddie's bed sheets were sent to the laundry and never seen again.

[Robittybob1]

Other than the dogs (thread already created) what forensic tests have been carried out?

The window/shutters were tested for fingerprints and revealed KM's only? 

Some items were DNA tested using LCN?

Have you seen the file on forensics?  http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm
These are the file names:
"
DOGS - F.S.S - PORTUGUESE FORENSICS

FORENSIC LINKS INDEX
5A SAMPLES INDICATED BY EDDIE & KEELA
5A FORENSICS 04-05-07
BLOOD SPLATTERS
DOGS INSPECTION & FINDINGS PDL 31-07-07
DOGS INSPECTION SITES 2
EDDIE & KEELA  APART INSPECTION JULY 07
EDDIE & KEELA MARTIN GRIME AUG 2007
FINGER PRINTS
FORENSIC CLOTHING PHOTOS PJ FILES
FSS. ANDREW LLOYD PALMER MADELINE'S HAIR
FSS. JOHN ROBERT LOWE REPORT
GNR SNIFFER DOGS REPORTS 30 NOV 07
INVOICES RELATING TO DNA ANALYSIS
MADELEINES DNA
MARTIN GRIME PERSONAL PROFILE
MARTIN GRIME 14 MAY 2008 ROGATORY
PORTUGUESE FORENSIC INSTITUTE TESTS"

[G-Unit]

As I understand  there were other smudged prints on the shutters

I couldn't find any reference to that in the forensic report.

[Mr Gray]

I couldn't find any reference to that in the forensic report.

Someone mentioned it last week or so and as I recall provided a cite

[ShiningInLuz]

I couldn't find any reference to that in the forensic report.

It appears in the Dispatches C4 docudrama where 5 British experts tried to narrow down what happened to Madeleine. 

They were analysing the work of Irene Trovão, the local CSI agent who conducted her work on the morning of 4 May, before the Lisbon CSI team did their sweep.  The Brits were trying to emulate what pattern you would get in raising the shutter manually from the outside.

I'm fairly sure I've seen the two smudges mentioned in the PJF somewhere, but I never considered them important enough to note where.  The smudges could belong to an alleged aductor, GM or DW, or any mix thereof.

[Mr Gray]

It appears in the Dispatches C4 docudrama where 5 British experts tried to narrow down what happened to Madeleine. 

They were analysing the work of Irene Trovão, the local CSI agent who conducted her work on the morning of 4 May, before the Lisbon CSI team did their sweep.  The Brits were trying to emulate what pattern you would get in raising the shutter manually from the outside.

I'm fairly sure I've seen the two smudges mentioned in the PJF somewhere, but I never considered them important enough to note where.  The smudges could belong to an alleged aductor, GM or DW, or any mix thereof.

I think if the smudges could belong to an alleged abductor they are important... Posters, seem to believe there, were no other marks in the shutters and see this to support no one else touched them

[ShiningInLuz]

I think if the smudges could belong to an alleged abductor they are important... Posters, seem to believe there, were no other marks in the shutters and see this to support no one else touched them

As they smudges were unusable and according to reports at least 2 of the T9 tried to raise the shutter from the outside, they prove nothing about an alleged abductor.

[faithlilly]

I think if the smudges could belong to an alleged abductor they are important... Posters, seem to believe there, were no other marks in the shutters and see this to support no one else touched them

The problem was the apartment was a holiday let and it would have been almost impossible to eliminate everyone who had stayed there over the months and years.

[Mr Gray]

As they smudges were unusable and according to reports at least 2 of the T9 tried to raise the shutter from the outside, they prove nothing about an alleged abductor.

I didn't say they prove anything as such... But there's a claim that the alleged abductor left no trace... If there are smudges on the shutters then maybe he did

[Mr Gray]

The problem was the apartment was a holiday let and it would have been almost impossible to eliminate everyone who had stayed there over the months and years.

We don't know who made those smudges... They may or may not have been made by an abductor... Therefore we don't know if an abductor left a trace or not

[Mr Gray]

Professor Barclay seemed to want to dismiss the shutters being opened from the outside due to lack of marks... But there were unexplained marks