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Offline Eleanor

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #150 on: July 25, 2019, 08:38:01 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 08:30:07 AM
I think that someone once came up with the wild idea that the abductor synthesised their own chloroform with which to drug the children.

Completely wacky idea in my opinion,

It was me originally who came up with that wacky idea.  Google it.  Chloroform is very easy to make.  And it isn't dangerous if used carefully.
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Offline jassi

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #151 on: July 25, 2019, 08:43:25 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on July 25, 2019, 08:38:01 AM
It was me originally who came up with that wacky idea.  Google it.  Chloroform is very easy to make.  And it isn't dangerous if used carefully.


But like so many ideas, there is nothing to support the idea that it  actually occurred
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #152 on: July 25, 2019, 08:45:26 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 08:43:25 AM

But like so many ideas, there is nothing to support the idea that it  actually occurred

And nothing to support The McCann's involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.
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Offline jassi

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #153 on: July 25, 2019, 08:46:53 AM »
Quote from: Eleanor on July 25, 2019, 08:45:26 AM
And nothing to support The McCann's involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.


Oh look - a squirrel - over there

Which explains why they haven't been charged with anything.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2019, 08:51:15 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 08:30:07 AM
I think that someone once came up with the wild idea that the abductor synthesised their own chloroform with which to drug the children.

Completely wacky idea in my opinion,

Oh I see!  Some claimed something similar in the Bamber case.

Children/adults sleeping through commotion can be explained by the science of sleep as I posted about previously.  I think people find it a hard concept to take on board because obviously when they experience such they're asleep!

Stage 3 non-REM sleep is the period of deep sleep that you need to feel refreshed in the morning.  It occurs in longer periods during the first half of the night.  Your heartbeat and breathing slow to their lowest levels during sleep.  Your muscles are relaxed and it may be difficult to awaken you.  Brain waves become even slower

https://www.ninds.nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Understanding-Sleep
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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2019, 09:02:05 AM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on July 25, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
Sorry if I'm being a bit dim but what has chloroform got to do with anything case related?
The PJ considered if chloroform (or similar) had been used in the apartment 5A.
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Offline jassi

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2019, 09:04:18 AM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 25, 2019, 09:02:05 AM
The PJ considered if chloroform (or similar) had been used in the apartment 5A.

I'm sure they did.
Did it lead to a breakthrough, or indeed anywhere, or did it join the reject pile of dead-end leads?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #157 on: July 25, 2019, 09:06:42 AM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on July 25, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
Sorry if I'm being a bit dim but what has chloroform got to do with anything case related?

The PJ CSI team from Lisbon, which conducted work on the afternoon of 4 May, carried out a simple test for chloroform or such on Madeleine's pillow.  It was negative.

I'm not sure if such a simple test was valid at that time.  But it contributes to the 'Madeleine was drugged' debate and the 'open shutter and window' debate.  Grist to the mill.

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #158 on: July 25, 2019, 09:24:46 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 09:04:18 AM
I'm sure they did.
Did it lead to a breakthrough, or indeed anywhere, or did it join the reject pile of dead-end leads?
You've been here long enough to know the answer to that?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #159 on: July 25, 2019, 07:34:40 PM »
Quote from: Holly Goodhead on July 25, 2019, 08:51:15 AM
Oh I see!  Some claimed something similar in the Bamber case.

Children/adults sleeping through commotion can be explained by the science of sleep as I posted about previously.  I think people find it a hard concept to take on board because obviously when they experience such they're asleep!

Stage 3 non-REM sleep is the period of deep sleep that you need to feel refreshed in the morning.  It occurs in longer periods during the first half of the night.  Your heartbeat and breathing slow to their lowest levels during sleep.  Your muscles are relaxed and it may be difficult to awaken you.  Brain waves become even slower

https://www.ninds
Normal sleep cycles don’t really explain the length of time the twins didn’t stir. IMO phenergan would explain it, however..nih.gov/Disorders/Patient-Caregiver-Education/Understanding-Sleep
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Offline jassi

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #160 on: July 25, 2019, 07:36:06 PM »
Quote from: Robittybob1 on July 25, 2019, 09:24:46 AM
You've been here long enough to know the answer to that?


Yeah, it was a bit of a rhetorical question, but I couldn't resist  8(0(*
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #161 on: July 26, 2019, 02:30:49 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 08:30:07 AM
I think that someone once came up with the wild idea that the abductor synthesised their own chloroform with which to drug the children.

Completely wacky idea in my opinion,

Yes... David Edgar seriously considered it.... Except he can't have been serious.... because, IMO, he must no better as a former detective, surely?!!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #162 on: July 26, 2019, 06:52:16 AM »
Quote from: jassi on July 25, 2019, 08:46:53 AM

Oh look - a squirrel - over there

Which explains why they haven't been charged with anything.
How did they commit the perfect crime that left no evidence, and on the hoof to boot?  Any ideas?
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Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #163 on: July 26, 2019, 06:43:05 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 26, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
How did they commit the perfect crime that left no evidence, and on the hoof to boot?  Any ideas?

How do you know there wasn't the possibility of blood being found (under the floor tiles, for example) in apartment 5A? GM's legal adviser during his September police interview was certainly aware of this possibility and cued GM to get a defence in early, IMO.
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Offline barrier

Re: Terfenadine for hayfever in 2007?
« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2019, 06:52:48 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 26, 2019, 06:52:16 AM
How did they commit the perfect crime that left no evidence, and on the hoof to boot?  Any ideas?

Some one seems to have committed the perfect crime.
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