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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2019, 09:52:48 PM »
They are amazing how they can sort it out.
Are you a visiting professor?  Where from?It is strange how the mention of hot dogs is actually making my stomach churn.  It is weird.


Well stop going on about it then!  enough already!

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Offline The General

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #31 on: July 10, 2019, 09:54:28 PM »
They were pointed to the front of 5A by a report of opened shutters and a window and a sighting. Were they told the patio doors were open?
So they were working on the assumption that this window was the mode of egress? Which, I suppose, contemporaneously, you would, in the absence of other data.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #32 on: July 10, 2019, 09:58:02 PM »
So they were working on the assumption that this window was the mode of egress? Which, I suppose, contemporaneously, you would, in the absence of other data.
But they actually tracked from the front door!  Not the window!  Now does that tell us something?
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Offline The General

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2019, 10:02:58 PM »
But they actually tracked from the front door!  Not the window!  Now does that tell us something?
I don't know, is there a report of the operating procedure?
Seems like a normal starting point, the front door.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2019, 11:08:04 PM »
I don't know, is there a report of the operating procedure?
Seems like a normal starting point, the front door.
What about the gate at the bottom of the steps.  How come there was no Madeleine scent there?  I think most people will be thinking the patio door is the most likely exit point.  Patio door , through the gate at the top and then the gate at the bottom.  Turn left or right there once on the footpath?  Nah no scent there.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2019, 08:44:57 AM »
What about the gate at the bottom of the steps.  How come there was no Madeleine scent there?  I think most people will be thinking the patio door is the most likely exit point.  Patio door , through the gate at the top and then the gate at the bottom.  Turn left or right there once on the footpath?  Nah no scent there.

But we know MM had legitimately been around the doors at 5A so her scent would be expected there.  As I understand it search and rescue dogs of the type deployed in this case are looking for a trail away from the soc.  They sniff an item that has been in body contact with the missing person to gain some scent and away they go.  Apparently we shed some 40,000 scent carrying skin cells per min  &%%6 and its this the dogs use to track. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2019, 09:04:18 AM »
But we know MM had legitimately been around the doors at 5A so her scent would be expected there.  As I understand it search and rescue dogs of the type deployed in this case are looking for a trail away from the soc.  They sniff an item that has been in body contact with the missing person to gain some scent and away they go.  Apparently we shed some 40,000 scent carrying skin cells per min  &%%6 and its this the dogs use to track.
But those cell scatter in the wind and aren't there that long.  Maybe too many people had crossed the footpath and into the patio gate to pick up a scent.  I find the trail from the front door fits my theory so I'm sticking with it.
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Offline barrier

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2019, 01:42:12 PM »
I'm confuddled,not hard I know,but what were those dogs,tracker or air scent dogs,theres a distinction  I think,if they were trackers,and its supposed Madeleine was carried away,how did those dogs discriminate Madeleine's scent above that of her carrier.Don't forget Tannerman and Smithman,they were carriers,no sighting of any child being led anywhere.Two options imo,old trail or she walked away,notwithstanding Rowley,"she wasn't old enough to leave of her own fruition" or words to that effect.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2019, 06:02:21 PM »
I'm confuddled,not hard I know,but what were those dogs,tracker or air scent dogs,theres a distinction  I think,if they were trackers,and its supposed Madeleine was carried away,how did those dogs discriminate Madeleine's scent above that of her carrier.Don't forget Tannerman and Smithman,they were carriers,no sighting of any child being led anywhere.Two options imo,old trail or she walked away,notwithstanding Rowley,"she wasn't old enough to leave of her own fruition" or words to that effect.
I'd call then tracker dogs.
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Offline barrier

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2019, 06:05:43 PM »
I'd call then tracker dogs.

So just for this arguments sake then,if it was a fresh scent she walked out of 5a,if she was carried there would be nothing to track,so whats it to be woke and wandered or older scent? conundrum time.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2019, 06:37:17 PM »
So just for this arguments sake then,if it was a fresh scent she walked out of 5a,if she was carried there would be nothing to track,so whats it to be woke and wandered or older scent? conundrum time.
And with the older scents Madeleine would have been wearing shoes.  Yet on the night she went missing she was in bare feet.  IMO there would be a much stronger scent track laid down with bare feet as the stones would be cutting into the tender soles.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2019, 06:51:55 PM »
And with the older scents Madeleine would have been wearing shoes.  Yet on the night she went missing she was in bare feet.  IMO there would be a much stronger scent track laid down with bare feet as the stones would be cutting into the tender soles.

Not yet convinced about the bare feet part.

But at Madeleine's age, our grandson happily ran around in bare feet on calçadas without feeling any pain or sustaining any damage to his soles.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2019, 07:06:35 PM »
Not yet convinced about the bare feet part.

But at Madeleine's age, our grandson happily ran around in bare feet on calçadas without feeling any pain or sustaining any damage to his soles.
Mosaics = calçadas??
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Offline ShiningInLuz

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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2019, 07:24:38 PM »
Mosaics = calçadas??

I tried to look up the English equivalent, to no avail.  The nearest I can think of is cobble-stones, but that gives the wrong idea.

They are cubes of stone, of similar sizes, but they are cut with rough, jagged surfaces.

The make up nearly all of the pavements in Luz, and our main patio here.

Our grandchildren frequently play without shoes or socks and the patio calçadas don't bother them at all.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Search And Rescue Dogs Deployed By GNR
« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2019, 07:27:32 PM »
I tried to look up the English equivalent, to no avail.  The nearest I can think of is cobble-stones, but that gives the wrong idea.

They are cubes of stone, of similar sizes, but they are cut with rough, jagged surfaces.

The make up nearly all of the pavements in Luz, and our main patio here.

Our grandchildren frequently play without shoes or socks and the patio calçadas don't bother them at all.
On the video I saw, the upper surface was flat or reasonably flat, so it wouldn't cut into the feet.
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