If The GNR Search & Rescue Dogs Were Not Tracking MM Who Were They Tracking?

[Holly Goodhead]

As we know the S&R dogs were brought in on 4th May.  The officer/handler asked for an item of MM's and according to KM he was offered some clothes and the pink princess comfort blankey.  The officer confirms he took what he describes as a Turkish towel. 

So lets assume for whatever reason(s) KM hands the officer an item which MM never had any contact with, who were the dogs scenting and tracking from 5A?  The dogs scented left from the front of 5A, along the car park towards block 4, turned left between the two blocks, turned left and continued along the footpath which runs  between the back of the apartments patio door side.  At the top of the footpath the dogs turned right and then veered left along Rua Dr Francisco Gential Martins to the car park.

[alphonse]

The twins?

[Holly Goodhead]

The twins?

When did the twins tread that route?

[alphonse]

Is it a trick question, then?  I had no reason to believe it wasn´t Madeleine......

[alphonse]

I know Gerry said Madeleine had run off around that direction a couple of days previously. I always felt this type of dog would pick up the freshest scent but who really knows?   

[Holly Goodhead]

Is it a trick question, then?  I had no reason to believe it wasn´t Madeleine......

No not at all and I have no reason to believe KM didn't hand the officer items MM had contact with and the dogs were scenting and tracking her.  I was simply asking the question as some seem to believe KM duped the officer in handing him some item MM didn't have contact with.  If this is the case it begs the question who exactly were the dogs scenting and tracking?

[jassi]

Is it a trick question, then?  I had no reason to believe it wasn´t Madeleine......

OK, what reason did you have to believe that it was Madeleine's scent ?

[alphonse]

I could not see an obvious reason for Kate to give them an item which she knew did not contain Madeleine´s scent.
  Just for the record, I think it quite likely Madeleine was murdered in the flat and the body moved due to the killer being worried about DNA. Just an opinion

[Holly Goodhead]

I could not see an obvious reason for Kate to give them an item which she knew did not contain Madeleine´s scent.
  Just for the record, I think it quite likely Madeleine was murdered in the flat and the body moved due to the killer being worried about DNA. Just an opinion

So do you believe the dogs were scenting and tracking a deceased MM?

[Robittybob1]

So do you believe the dogs were scenting and tracking a deceased MM?

well she wouldn't be walking if she was.  Therefore being carried and would there still be a scent trail several days later to a person being carried?  In the right conditions someone being carried can be tracked.   It would need looking up though.

[jassi]

If deceased, she might have been in a bag or suchlike. What would happen to the scent in that case, as there would be no discarded skin cells ?

[G-Unit]

The facts are that patrol dogs (not S & R dogs) arrived at 2:30 am on 4th They were given Madeleine's pink blanket and followed the route to the car park accross from the Tapas reception.

The S & R tracker dogs arrived from Lisbon later on 4th. They were given the bath towel and followed the same route as the patrol dogs.

Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

According to Gerry McCann the three children ran away one day when the family were leaving the apartment and went along that same route. Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

In theory, therefore, the dogs could have been following the scent of any of the family, incliding but not definitely, Mdeleine.

Sadie thinks the dogs may have been following the scent of an abductor going from a car to the front door. Her hypothesis being that he touched the blanket and wiped his sweaty self on the towel.

[Robittybob1]

The facts are that patrol dogs (not S & R dogs) arrived at 2:30 am on 4th They were given Madeleine's pink blanket and followed the route to the car park accross from the Tapas reception.

The S & R tracker dogs arrived from Lisbon later on 4th. They were given the bath towel and followed the same route as the patrol dogs.

Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

According to Gerry McCann the three children ran away one day when the family were leaving the apartment and went along that same route. Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

In theory, therefore, the dogs could have been following the scent of any of the family, incliding but not definitely, Mdeleine.

Sadie thinks the dogs may have been following the scent of an abductor going from a car to the front door. Her hypothesis being that he touched the blanket and wiped his sweaty self on the towel.

I don't think the kids ran all the way to the car park.

[The General]

I don't think the kids ran all the way to the car park.

2 two year olds might get 10 metres before being caught by their two sporty parents. Unless they all legged it like Michael Johnson, of course.

[Holly Goodhead]

The facts are that patrol dogs (not S & R dogs) arrived at 2:30 am on 4th They were given Madeleine's pink blanket and followed the route to the car park accross from the Tapas reception.

The S & R tracker dogs arrived from Lisbon later on 4th. They were given the bath towel and followed the same route as the patrol dogs.

Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CARLOS-LACAO.htm
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PEDRO_ESTEVES.htm

According to Gerry McCann the three children ran away one day when the family were leaving the apartment and went along that same route. Here is the evidence;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

In theory, therefore, the dogs could have been following the scent of any of the family, incliding but not definitely, Mdeleine.

Sadie thinks the dogs may have been following the scent of an abductor going from a car to the front door. Her hypothesis being that he touched the blanket and wiped his sweaty self on the towel.

Thanks.  So here's the relevant section:

----- That, between Monday and Wednesday, not knowing the precise date, when they left the residence by the main door, to place the children in the respective creches, MADELEINE left [went] running to the left to the extreme opposite of the residential blocks where they were lodged, playing with the twins. That they had gone down to the furthest point away from those blocks, not knowing exactly how, the three children got into the gardens at the rear [of the blocks]. Then they followed the inside corridor [pathway] at the rear, next to the hedges [fences] up to the street that led to the secondary reception.

It seems the children took the same the route the dogs scented other than when the dogs arrived on Rua Dr Francisco Gential Martins they veered to the opposite side of the road and scented into the car park wheras MM and twins kept to the 5A side of the road and entered into OC/creche.  For this reason I do not believe the dogs were scenting and tracking the movements of MM on Mon - Wed.