Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?

[G-Unit]

Do any break down figs exist of % of time ECHR rule against lower courts?

I'm probably being picky, but national courts aren't lower than the ECHR. The States which have signed up have agreed to allow the ECHR to decide on matters of human rights, nothing else. The ECHR can give it's opinion, but the States can't be forced to respond.

Portugal, for example, has a history of giving more weight to privacy and reputation than to freedom pf expression and has been criticised by the ECHR for that. That was mentioned by the SC judges, in fact.

[Mr Gray]

I'm probably being picky, but national courts aren't lower than the ECHR. The States which have signed up have agreed to allow the ECHR to decide on matters of human rights, nothing else. The ECHR can give it's opinion, but the States can't be forced to respond.

Portugal, for example, has a history of giving more weight to privacy and reputation than to freedom pf expression and has been criticised by the ECHR for that. That was mentioned by the SC judges, in fact.

The McCanns case will of course be re human rights... It can't be anything else. Portugal simply could ignore an adverse verdict... I doubt that would happen.... But it would look very damming on the Portuguese state.

[Robittybob1]

The McCanns case will of course be re human rights... It can't be anything else. Portugal simply could ignore an adverse verdict... I doubt that would happen.... But it would look very damming on the Portuguese state.

What will the McCanns get out of it if the ECHR rules in their favour?

[Mr Gray]

What will the McCanns get out of it if the ECHR rules in their favour?

They will get a small amount of damages.... But more importantly, If Portugal enforce the law as they should it will prevent Amaral from making any further statements.
It will also humiliate Amaral and Portugal...
The actual court action may highlight the paucity of the evidence Amaral used to reach his conclusions and as his thesis was the opinion of the PJ at the time will show how misguided they were

[G-Unit]

joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

Your link doesn't work for me, but I think it's here;

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

I see that the original video is there. Can you understand what Amaral is saying then? The translation is by Astro, I notice, who helped to translate the witness statements in the files. The originals of them are also present, in writing and certified as correct by the interpreters and the witnesses. .

[Mr Gray]

Your link doesn't work for me, but I think it's here;

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

I see that the original video is there. Can you understand what Amaral is saying then? The translation is by Astro, I notice, who helped to translate the witness statements in the files. The originals of them are also present, in writing and certified as correct by the interpreters and the witnesses. .

Adtro translated the written Portuguese in the witness statements not the McCanns oral statements of which there is no record.

[G-Unit]

Adtro translated the written Portuguese in the witness statements not the McCanns oral statements of which there is no record.

The Portuguese text is the record. Stop accusing the PJ/interpreter of making mistakes because neither you nor anyone else has any ptoof.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I'm glad to see this thread has veered completely off its absurd premise of a topic.  Is it now just a free for all? 

[Mr Gray]

The Portuguese text is the record. Stop accusing the PJ/interpreter of making mistakes because neither you nor anyone else has any ptoof.

I'm saying we have no record of the McCanns actual statements and therefore cannot guarantee the accuracy of the Portuguese statements in the files... That's a fact
Colin Sutton has said the same... Kate in her book als says the statements contain mistakes.... My post is all fact

[G-Unit]

I'm saying we have no record of the McCanns actual statements and therefore cannot guarantee the accuracy of the Portuguese statements in the files... That's a fact
Colin Sutton has said the same... Kate in her book als says the statements contain mistakes.... My post is all fact

It's a fact that people have raised the possibility, It's not a fact that they're right. No-one can successfully argue against a statement which they signed imo.

[Mr Gray]

It's a fact that people have raised the possibility, It's not a fact that they're right. No-one can successfully argue against a statement which they signed imo.

They can certainly argue about it in the UK.... I don't see why Portugal should be any different

[G-Unit]

They can certainly argue about it in the UK.... I don't see why Portugal should be any different

Successfully?

[Mr Gray]

Successfully?

Yes... In my experience it concerns consent for medical treatment... A signature does not confirm in law that you have read and understood it

[G-Unit]

Yes... In my experience it concerns consent for medical treatment... A signature does not confirm in law that you have read and understood it

I suspect it's a little more cmplicated than that.

[Robittybob1]

Yes... In my experience it concerns consent for medical treatment... A signature does not confirm in law that you have read and understood it

Could you give the forum an example of what you are saying?