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Offline The General

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2019, 07:38:26 PM »
No one or nothing was able to confirm the dog alerts.  The end.
I'd explain, but this post will disappear.

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2019, 07:52:26 PM »

Any more nonsense and Warning Points will be applied.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2019, 09:51:45 PM »
I'd explain, but this post will disappear.

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2019, 10:15:10 PM »
No one or nothing was able to confirm the dog alerts.  The end.
Im my theory it was possible to have statements which might confirm why cadaver odour may have been found in the apartment.
1. Someone could confess to bringing a cadaver into the rooms.
2. Someone could confess to removing the cadaver presumably after the PJ left for the night.

There was a window of opportunity once the PJ left, provided one had access to a key.

So how does this reflect on my character?  I'd like to think I am creative in my thinking, and smart to come along with a potential solution.  I'm also feeling glad that it probably doesn't involve the parents as we know fairly well they were in the Payne's residence at that time. Concerned that we are only discussing what happened on the first day of being missing yet now  12 years have passed. 
« Last Edit: August 04, 2019, 11:34:21 AM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2019, 10:35:12 PM »
Why has my post pointing out that G-Unit has misunderstood what I wrote been removed?  Why am I denied right of reply to a thread that was set up in an attempt to ridicule what I wrote on another thread?  How is this fair?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2019, 10:40:37 PM »
I think suggesting that all those who believe Madeleine was abducted are open to learning, wise and nice is not supported by the evidence.

In my experience some of those who believe in the abduction are completely closed to learning anything which casts doubt on that belief. They are often unwise enough to lash out with nasty attacks on others, too, which results in them being sanctioned IMO.
You have totally misunderstood my post and then sought to make capital out of it.  I did NOT claim one side was superior to the other, only that many on each side believes those on the otehr to be deficient in certain ways based purely on what they believe happened in the McCann case.  This is not remotely ridiculous but actually quite accurate, so kindly get your facts right before seeking to make an example of my posts, ta muchly.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2019, 10:42:36 PM »
Why has my post pointing out that G-Unit has misunderstood what I wrote been removed?  Why am I denied right of reply to a thread that was set up in an attempt to ridicule what I wrote on another thread?  How is this fair?
I was surprised they were removed but they have been.   Ask Admin to restore them.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2019, 10:43:22 PM »
Im my theory it was possible to have statements which might confirm why cadaver odour may have been found in the apartment.
1. Someone could confess to bring a cadaver into the rooms.
2. Someone could confess to removing the cadaver presumably after the PJ left for the night.

There was a window of opportunity once the PJ left, provided one had access to a key.

So how does this reflect on my character?  I'd like to think I am creative in my thinking, and smart to come along with a potential solution.  I'm also feeling glad that it probably doesn't involve the parents as we know fairly well they were in the Payne's residence at that time. Concerned that we are only discussing what happened on the first day of being missing yet now  12 years have passed.

You think your theories make you look creative and smart.. I would say others have a different opinion

Offline G-Unit

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #68 on: August 04, 2019, 09:03:20 AM »
You have totally misunderstood my post and then sought to make capital out of it.  I did NOT claim one side was superior to the other, only that many on each side believes those on the otehr to be deficient in certain ways bs is not remotely ridiculous but actually quite accurate, so kindly get your facts right before seeking to make an example of my posts, ta muchly.

Despite your original post having been deleted, along with my reply, it still exists on this thread, The only way you're going to erase it is by getting this thread deleted. I expect you'll manage it eventually.

Until then, anyone who wants to can read it and make their own minds up about what you said. They can see that there was no mention of 'many on each side' or of what those 'many' believe. Members can decide whether I misunderstood or whether you failed to adequately express your thoughts.

Even your revised explanation; that people find others 'deficient in certain ways based purely on what they believe happened in the McCann case' isn't necessarily accurate. Perhaps people find others deficient in certain ways for reasons other than their stance on the McCann case. I, for one, don't use that as my criterion.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #69 on: August 04, 2019, 09:08:39 AM »
Despite your original post having been deleted, along with my reply, it still exists on this thread, The only way you're going to erase it is by getting this thread deleted. I expect you'll manage it eventually.

Until then, anyone who wants to can read it and make their own minds up about what you said. They can see that there was no mention of 'many on each side' or of what those 'many' believe. Members can decide whether I misunderstood or whether you failed to adequately express your thoughts.

Even your revised explanation; that people find others 'deficient in certain ways based purely on what they believe happened in the McCann case' isn't necessarily accurate. Perhaps people find others deficient in certain ways for reasons other than their stance on the McCann case. I, for one, don't use that as my criterion.
I have not reported this thread or complained about it to the mods, in fact I am annoyed that my earlier comments on here have been deleted.  It is a FACT that you misunderstood what I wrote (and took the comment out of context), because the premise of this thread is that you believed I meant that people who think Madeleine was abducted have superior characters.  The honorable, decent thing to do would be to apologise for misrepresenting my views and starting a thread with a false premise.  It takes character and humility to apologise, so let’s call this a test of character.  Over to you.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2019, 09:12:26 AM by Vertigo Swirl »
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #70 on: August 04, 2019, 09:40:51 AM »
I have not reported this thread or complained about it to the mods, in fact I am annoyed that my earlier comments on here have been deleted.  It is a FACT that you misunderstood what I wrote, because the premise of this thread is that you believed I meant that people who think Madeleine was abducted have superior characters.  The honorable, decent thing to do would be to apologise for misrepresenting my views and starting a thread with a false premise.  It takes character and humility to apologise, so let’s call this a test of character.  Over to you.

I reproduced your post exactly as you wrote it. You may not have meant what you said, but you did say it and I don't think I misunderstood or misrepresented it. I'm sorry you're upset, that wasn't my intention. You do, of course, have the right to reply and have done so.

I will leave it to others to judge who they agree with.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2019, 09:59:16 AM »
No one has used the word superior... I would say supporters have a better understanding of the evidence

Which is a bit rich considering they do not have access to ALL evidence. Bit of a moot point in that post.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2019, 10:06:04 AM »
You think your theories make you look creative and smart.. I would say others have a different opinion

I think Rob is prepared to look outside the box. Is he to be vilified for that Davel?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2019, 10:07:26 AM »
What I originally wrote (taken out of the context of the discussion on another thread):

“I think on this forum the overriding criterion in deciding whether one is open to learning, nice and wise is whether or not they believe Madeleine was abducted”.

G-Unit has invited ridicule ( she suggests it is ridiculous in her opening post) on what I wrote by interpreting it to mean

“there is no way one group can be described as superior in character to another group based purely on belief in a particular theory”.

Nowhere in my original quote do I suggest that one group is superior to another.

My meaning was that each of us has a tendency to judge the other’s niceness, open to learningness and wiseness based on their beliefs about what happened to Madeleine. 

G-Unit refuses to accept her mistake, and refuses to apologise for her misunderstanding, despite the fact that I have made it very clear that she was mistaken.  I am not upset but I do not like to be misrepresented.

I hope that is now clear to all. 

Thanks for listening!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2019, 10:09:09 AM »
I reproduced your post exactly as you wrote it. You may not have meant what you said, but you did say it and I don't think I misunderstood or misrepresented it. I'm sorry you're upset, that wasn't my intention. You do, of course, have the right to reply and have done so.

I will leave it to others to judge who they agree with.
IMO sceptics will support your position and McCann supporters will support mine, regardless of the facts.  Let’s see if I am right or not.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".