Can we judge a person's character by their stance on the case?

[Mr Gray]

But there's a mountain of stuff online which is highly critical of the McCanns.  And imo had they just kept their heads down and taken a different approach they would have fewer critics.

I dont believe that to be true at all....theres loads online about the US govt being behind 911....the govt just ignore it....it hasnt gone away  You keep using the word critics...teh mcccanns ahve millions of critics for leaving the children....only a small part of those believe the mccanns are lying and are involved in the disappearance

[Holly Goodhead]

So what constitutes libel in your view then?

As I said earlier I'm not a libel lawyer and even those who are can only offer up opinion which is often proved wrong in the courts.

[Mr Gray]

As I said earlier I'm not a libel lawyer and even those who are can only offer up opinion which is often proved wrong in the courts.

the law is so clear cut and simple it rarely reaches the courts...you claim its opinion often proved wrong in courts....do you have any cite for that because I dont beleive its true

[Holly Goodhead]

I dont believe that to be true at all....theres loads online about the US govt being behind 911....the govt just ignore it....it hasnt gone away  You keep using the word critics...teh mcccanns ahve millions of critics for leaving the children....only a small part of those believe the mccanns are lying and are involved in the disappearance

Exactly people have all sorts of views and imo they are best left to it.  Hate crime is different ie inciting hatred towards groups of people by way of race, ethnicity etc. 

I was surprised by the amount of anti McCann material online.  There are far more homemade vids on YouTube that are anti as opposed to pro.  In fact I haven't seen any homemade vids that are pro just anti or neutral.  What about this body language expert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwALaaxavLA

[Holly Goodhead]

the law is so clear cut and simple it rarely reaches the courts...you claim its opinion often proved wrong in courts....do you have any cite for that because I dont beleive its true

No it isn't.  If it was the McCanns would not have ended up on a hiding to nothing with Amaral. 

[Mr Gray]

Exactly people have all sorts of views and imo they are best left to it.  Hate crime is different ie inciting hatred towards groups of people by way of race, ethnicity etc. 

I was surprised by the amount of anti McCann material online.  There are far more homemade vids on YouTube that are anti as opposed to pro.  In fact I haven't seen any homemade vids that are pro just anti or neutral.  What about this body language expert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwALaaxavLA

body language is not an exact science...it isnt evidence...its opinion

[Mr Gray]

No it isn't.  If it was the McCanns would not have ended up on a hiding to nothing with Amaral.

I should have made it clear im talking about the UK. Was  the amaral verdict lawful...we dont know yet. Judging by what Ive read on the ECHR website  it wasnt.

[jassi]

Exactly people have all sorts of views and imo they are best left to it.  Hate crime is different ie inciting hatred towards groups of people by way of race, ethnicity etc. 

I was surprised by the amount of anti McCann material online.  There are far more homemade vids on YouTube that are anti as opposed to pro.  In fact I haven't seen any homemade vids that are pro just anti or neutral.  What about this body language expert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwALaaxavLA

I suppose there's  limited scope for saying 'I  don't believe they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance'.

Perhaps someone like Davel could make a video showing all the evidence  that points to their non-involvement.

[Holly Goodhead]

and thats why posters cant make accusations against the mccanns on the forum

Within reason they can and do as is their right to express their opinions.

[Mr Gray]

Within reason they can and do as is their right to express their opinions.

now you have changed what you initially claimed.....within reason. Their right to express opinion is governed by law...including libel law  and is not absolute

[Holly Goodhead]

I suppose there's  limited scope for saying 'I  don't believe they were involved in Madeleine's disappearance'.

Perhaps someone like Davel could make a video showing all the evidence  that points to their non-involvement.

The case against the McCanns turned on the dogs and the lcn dna.  Imo the McCanns would have been better to have produced material in various forms assisted by experts and use this in their campaign as opposed to litigation lawyers.

[Holly Goodhead]

now you have changed what you initially claimed.....within reason. Their right to express opinion is governed by law...including libel law  and is not absolute

What did I initially claim that's different to what I'm claiming now? 

[Holly Goodhead]

body language is not an exact science...it isnt evidence...its opinion

That's not the point.  The point is there's a mountain of anti McCann material online and I've no idea why it bothers you so much. 

[Eleanor]

No it isn't.  If it was the McCanns would not have ended up on a hiding to nothing with Amaral.

The Law is somewhat different in Portugal.

[Eleanor]

That's not the point.  The point is there's a mountain of anti McCann material online and I've no idea why it bothers you so much.

I suppose it depends on whether or not you believe in Innocent Until Proven Guilty.