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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2019, 10:47:18 AM »
The Dusun resort in Malaysia from which Nora Quoinn disappeared is fascinating. It is pretty small with guests (up to 20 adults) staying in just 6 or maybe 7 houses. Children stay free. The houses are separated as peace and quiet is what's on offer. Some of the houses seem less secure than others by our standatds

The jungle is a 20 minute walk away and there's a fee to enter it.
http://thedusun.com.my/
Yes, I looked it up too.  Apparently the family were staying in the modern dwelling with the spiral staircase (though I haven’t seen that confirmed anywhere).  There doesn’t seem to have been air-con in any of them which means windows and verandahs would almost certainly have been left open.  As someone who lived in the country for many years break-ins were commonplace.  We were burgled at least 4 times in 10 years, the first time the burglars gained access by the open verandah of our second floor flat.  We were all present at the time and the burglar entered our bedrooms where we slept on oblivious.  I was six at the time, there but for the grace of god and all that...
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2019, 06:28:48 PM »
The Dusun resort in Malaysia from which Nora Quoinn disappeared is fascinating. It is pretty small with guests (up to 20 adults) staying in just 6 or maybe 7 houses. Children stay free. The houses are separated as peace and quiet is what's on offer. Some of the houses seem less secure than others by our standatds

The jungle is a 20 minute walk away and there's a fee to enter it.
http://thedusun.com.my/

Was Nora's bedroom on the ground floor? Does anyone know or have pictuers of the layout.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2019, 08:56:24 PM »
Was Nora's bedroom on the ground floor? Does anyone know or have pictuers of the layout.
No, on the first floor.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2019, 01:01:24 PM »
Missing Nora Quoirin: Shamans and cadaver dogs brought in to find Brit, 15, in Malaysia

Shamans joined the hunt for missing London teen Nora Quoirin after 15-year-old went missing in the Malaysian jungle

Cadaver dogs and shamans have joined the hunt for a 15-year-old London girl who's been missing in Malaysia for more than a week.

Around 350 personnel have been searching dense jungle and a river for Nora Quoirin, who vanished from her family's holiday cottage on August 4.

Shamans went into trances as they performed rituals to summon spirits who they believe can assist the search in the snake-infested jungle.

Officers from Scotland Yard and the National Crime Agency are also helping in the effort to find ­the Franco-Irish teen, and Irish hostage and kidnap specialists are on standby.

As the search entered its ninth day on Monday, Malaysian officials vowed to carry on while focusing on a mountain close to the Dusun resort where the Quoirins were staying.

It has also been revealed that Nora was barefoot when she went missing.

More than £100,000 has been donated to help Nora's mum Meabh and dad Sebastien, who have been urged to consider offering a cash reward.

Nora's family have said they believe the teen, who was born with the brain defect holoprosencephaly and has special needs, was abducted.

Malaysian officials have said there was "no proof" she was kidnapped, but they were not ruling out any possibilities.

Police believe she wandered off from the cottage. A window was open when the teen was discovered missing.

On Monday, search teams went through the jungle with cadaver dogs and five shamans offered help.

The men performed a ritual together in the forest.

The group's representative, Mohd Khalid Mohamed, told Front Desk: “When the incident happened in the village, it made us want to come here and offer help using other alternative ways to locate the missing teenager.

"We hope this child can be found safe."

With authorities from Britain, Ireland and France all now helping the search, trackers were going through steep terrain made even more dangerous due to recent rainfall.

Transport Minister Anthony Loke visited the site to meet search and rescue teams and offer the government's support.

The jet-lagged Quoirins - including Nora's 12-year-old sister and eight-year-old brother - checked into the Dusun resort resort near Seremban, about an hour south of Kuala Lumpur, on August 3.

Nora went to bed in an upstairs room and was discovered missing at 8am the following morning, according to her family.

It is believed she was barefoot and wearing her night clothes.

Search teams have used drones and helicopters with thermal imaging and gone through the jungle playing a recording of 45-year-old Mrs Quoirin's voice.

Known paedophiles have been interviewed and police have visited the homes of at least 30 local people as part of the hunt.

Mrs Quoirin, originally from Belfast, and 47-year-old Mr Quoirin, who is from France, have lived in London for 20 years.

The couple, who currently reside in Balham, thanked those involved in looking for her during an emotional speech on Saturday.

"You have given up your time especially at a special festival time," said Ms Quoirin, referring to Hari Raya Haji, the Islamic "festival of sacrifice" celebrations.

In a video broadcast on local media, she added: "We want to say thank you to each and every one of you. We know you're searching night and day for Nora.

"We see you working so hard and also praying with us and being with us."

The family have said they remain hopeful after police leading the investigation refused to rule out a "criminal element".

A spokeswoman for the NCA said: "The National Crime Agency, the Met Police and the Irish police are working together to help and support the Malaysian authorities relating to Nora Quoirin's disappearance."

Search timeline
August 4: Nora was reported missing after her father discovered she was not in her bedroom at the Dusan Resort at around 8am on Sunday.

The window was also open in the room that Nora had been sharing with her two siblings.

August 5: British missing persons charity the Lucie Blackman Trust, which is assisting the Quoirins, said that Malaysian police were treating Nora's disappearance as a potential abduction, but officers denied there was any foul play involved.

August 6: Nora's family said they believed her to have been abducted.

August 7: Police said they were analysing unidentified fingerprints found in the family's hotel suite.

August 9: Police investigated whether footprints found in the forest where Nora went missing belonged to the missing teen.

August 10: Nora's family thanked the search teams involved since the teenager's disappearance.

August 12: The Quoirins offer a £10,000 reward for information leading to her safe return.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-nora-quoirin-shamans-summon-18917003

Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2019, 05:37:04 PM »
God help the parents if a dog decides to bark in their holiday apartment. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2019, 06:16:18 PM »
God help the parents if a dog decides to bark in their holiday apartment. 

I wonder if they've deleted their call history yet, as is standard procedure in abduction cases.
"I bet the parents dunnit" (Me)

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2019, 06:22:02 PM »

I'm finding it hard to believe an abductor could have carried her from her bed, down the stairs & out of the window.

She isn't a baby, must weigh about 7 stone or so, the abductor would have to be rather strong IMO
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2019, 06:35:38 PM »
I'm finding it hard to believe an abductor could have carried her from her bed, down the stairs & out of the window.

She isn't a baby, must weigh about 7 stone or so, the abductor would have to be rather strong IMO
I wondered when you’d show up to give us the benefit of your wisdom.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2019, 06:41:19 PM »
I wondered when you’d show up to give us the benefit of your wisdom.

I'm not saying the parents dunnit.

I think the Shamans have it right, a genie lured her away.
« Last Edit: August 12, 2019, 07:03:22 PM by Wonderfulspam »
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2019, 06:42:57 PM »
I'm not saying the parents dunnit.

I'm think the Shamans have it right, a genie lured her away.
Idiot.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2019, 06:58:16 PM »
Nora was sleeping in the same room as her younger siblings and her parents were in a bedroom a few feet away. 

She was discovered missing by her father Sebastien at around 8am and a downstairs door was wide open.

They have told police they did not hear anything and there were no signs of a struggle.

The only clue to the teen's disappearance was an open ground floor window, which police believe she climbed out and then wandered into the jungle.

One theory is that she woke up early jet lagged after her 12hour flight from London and, disorientated at being in a strange bedroom, got up and left.

Police have said there is no sign of any intruder entering the property.

They have not found any footprints inside the villa or forensic evidence to suggest an unknown person was inside.

The entire area around the villa where the family were staying is covered with soggy vegetation and the single-track road leading to the resort is covered with mud.

Had someone entered through the window and climbed a flight of stairs to an upstairs bedroom where Nora was sleeping it is assumed there would have been traces of mud on the floor.

It is because of the lack of evidence of any crime that police are treating the case as primarily that of a missing person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7348075/Malaysian-search-teams-bring-cadaver-dogs-shaman-desperate-hunt-Nora-Quoirin.html
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2019, 06:59:01 PM »

Window with a view of the spiral staircase.



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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2019, 07:02:53 PM »
Nora was sleeping in the same room as her younger siblings and her parents were in a bedroom a few feet away. 

She was discovered missing by her father Sebastien at around 8am and a downstairs door was wide open.

They have told police they did not hear anything and there were no signs of a struggle.

The only clue to the teen's disappearance was an open ground floor window, which police believe she climbed out and then wandered into the jungle.

One theory is that she woke up early jet lagged after her 12hour flight from London and, disorientated at being in a strange bedroom, got up and left.

Police have said there is no sign of any intruder entering the property.

They have not found any footprints inside the villa or forensic evidence to suggest an unknown person was inside.

The entire area around the villa where the family were staying is covered with soggy vegetation and the single-track road leading to the resort is covered with mud.

Had someone entered through the window and climbed a flight of stairs to an upstairs bedroom where Nora was sleeping it is assumed there would have been traces of mud on the floor.

It is because of the lack of evidence of any crime that police are treating the case as primarily that of a missing person.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7348075/Malaysian-search-teams-bring-cadaver-dogs-shaman-desperate-hunt-Nora-Quoirin.html


That's the first time I've seen mention of a downstairs door being open.
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