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AnneGuedes

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #285 on: May 14, 2013, 10:19:28 PM »
To be honest, as would say somebody we know, the Pj is being defamed when pretending to have been called only at 22:21 whenever it was called ealier.
If such suspicions exist, then posting here means indirect but true adhesion to this libel.
I ask the administrators to take a position.
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Redblossom

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #286 on: May 14, 2013, 10:21:23 PM »
and why would management at reception use their cell phone or anyone else use their cellphone, it was managements responsibility not any tom dick or harry to call police

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #287 on: May 14, 2013, 10:22:25 PM »
LOL It's libelous to the PJ to question whether the GNR was phoned earlier than 22.40 as a witness stated clearly that a phone call WAS made earlier than the official records show? ?? Don't make me laugh.....

AnneGuedes

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #288 on: May 14, 2013, 10:24:25 PM »
and why would management at reception use their cell phone or anyone else use their cellphone, it was managements responsibility not any tom dick or harry to call police
And when the GNR was called at 22:41 from the OC landline, was it to contradict Mrs B. ?

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #289 on: May 14, 2013, 10:25:10 PM »
and why would management at reception use their cell phone or anyone else use their cellphone, it was managements responsibility not any tom dick or harry to call police

Is it against the law though, is it? At least it wasn't when I worked in the tourist industry. I'm not saying it DID happen I'm just pondering whether that could have been what the receptionist meant when he stated that he had phone the police EARLIER than official records show.

Redblossom

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #290 on: May 14, 2013, 10:25:55 PM »
LOL It's libelous to the PJ to question whether the GNR was phoned earlier than 22.40 as a witness stated clearly that a phone call WAS made earlier than the official records show? ?? Don't make me laugh.....

WHEN was that call made and by who, I ask a SECOND time

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #291 on: May 14, 2013, 10:30:57 PM »
If you would have bothered to read back, you wouldn't have had to ask a second time, would you? The link has been posted in an earlier post.

With regard to the date of the disappearance on 3rd May 2007, he remembers that at 22.00/22.15 he received a phone call from the reception, from receptionist Helder, who told him that John Hill was extremely agitated as a child had disappeared and that the GNR had been contacted but had not arrived yet. He added (the receptionist) that he had phoned the GNR post several times and that he had been told that they would arrive when they could but that they were investigating a theft in Odiaxere. The receptionist asked the witness whether he should contact the PSP, to which the witness replied no as this area belongs to the GNR.

Redblossom

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #292 on: May 14, 2013, 10:31:29 PM »
and why would management at reception use their cell phone or anyone else use their cellphone, it was managements responsibility not any tom dick or harry to call police

Is it against the law though, is it? At least it wasn't when I worked in the tourist industry. I'm not saying it DID happen I'm just pondering whether that could have been what the receptionist meant when he stated that he had phone the police EARLIER than official records show.

So who made the call and when

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #293 on: May 14, 2013, 10:33:16 PM »
Try READING the posts & you'll soon find out  8((()*/

Offline John

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #294 on: May 14, 2013, 10:34:30 PM »
We have an extremely credible statement by a resident of Praia da Luz called Maria Manuela Martins da Silva who was in the habit of visiting the apartment block adjacent to that occupied by the McCanns.  She was extremely well acquainted with the coming and goings and on the very night of the disappearance she had just left the apartment of her boyfriend with him at it turned 10pm.  She is adamant about this because she asked her friend to check the time which was 9.58.

Maria relates that there was no movement of people  at all at this time.  There was a light on at or near the McCann apartment but she did not pay much notice to it.

I would suggest that this was the very instant when Kate discovered that Madeleine had gone.  A moment in time just before all hell broke loose with people out with torches searching everywhere.

Maria infers that she was totally unaware of any commotion and only found out about it the next day.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-M-M-DE-SILVA.htm
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Redblossom

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #295 on: May 14, 2013, 10:36:27 PM »
Try READING the posts & you'll soon find out  8((()*/

Nope, up to you to prove it as you asserted it

icabodcrane

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #296 on: May 14, 2013, 10:40:25 PM »
We have an extremely credible statement by a resident of Praia da Luz called Maria Manuela Martins da Silva who was in the habit of visiting the apartment block adjacent to that occupied by the McCanns.  She was extremely well acquainted with the coming and goings and on the very night of the disappearance she had just left the apartment of her boyfriend with him at it turned 10pm.  She is adamant about this because she asked her friend to check the time which was 9.58.

Maria relates that there was no movement of people  at all at this time.  There was a light on at or near the McCann apartment but she did not pay much notice to it.

I would suggest that this was the very instant when Kate discovered that Madeleine had goneI .  A moment in time just before all hell broke loose with people out with torches searching everywhere.

Maria infers that she was totally unaware of any commotion and only found out about it the next day.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA-M-M-DE-SILVA.htm

BIB  ...  based on what  ?  ...  your intuition ?

There is nothing in this statement that leads to that conclusion

All this statement verifies is that at 10pm the resort was quiet  ... nothing more

Offline Mrs. B

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #297 on: May 14, 2013, 10:41:06 PM »
No actually, it's not up to me to pander to your laziness, you purport to have read the files. Have you or haven't you?

With regard to the date of the disappearance on 3rd May 2007, he remembers that at 22.00/22.15 he received a phone call from the reception, from receptionist Helder, who told him that John Hill was extremely agitated as a child had disappeared and that the GNR had been contacted but had not arrived yet. He added (the receptionist) that he had phoned the GNR post several times and that he had been told that they would arrive when they could but that they were investigating a theft in Odiaxere. The receptionist asked the witness whether he should contact the PSP, to which the witness replied no as this area belongs to the GNR.

Offline John

Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #298 on: May 14, 2013, 10:41:12 PM »
According to the Ocean Club telephone records the first call was made from their main switchboard at reception at 10.41pm with a second call made at 10.52pm with the caller being on the phone for about a minute each time.

The Club Manager, John Hill, was contacted on his mobile phone by Lindsay at about 10.30pm and he immediately set out for the resort arriving 5 minutes later. 

Reception did not call the police until John Hill arrived on site and this contributed to the unacceptable delay.  Had the receptionist done what Matthew wanted them to do shortly after 10pm then the police would have been there much sooner and we might just not have spent the last 6 years wondering where Madeleine McCann is now.

« Last Edit: May 14, 2013, 10:51:05 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

AnneGuedes

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Re: The evidence places Gerry McCann in the tapas bar at 10pm
« Reply #299 on: May 14, 2013, 10:42:18 PM »
If you would have bothered to read back, you wouldn't have had to ask a second time, would you? The link has been posted in an earlier post.

With regard to the date of the disappearance on 3rd May 2007, he remembers that at 22.00/22.15 he received a phone call from the reception, from receptionist Helder, who told him that John Hill was extremely agitated as a child had disappeared and that the GNR had been contacted but had not arrived yet. He added (the receptionist) that he had phoned the GNR post several times and that he had been told that they would arrive when they could but that they were investigating a theft in Odiaxere. The receptionist asked the witness whether he should contact the PSP, to which the witness replied no as this area belongs to the GNR.
Mr John H was informed at 22:28, on his cell phone which registered the call. How could he be "extremely agitated" before 22:15 ? Premonition ?
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