Is it any wonder that initial investigators arrived at the conclusions they did?

[Mr Gray]

Just as there's no proof Maddie was abducted.

It's quite possible the parents dunnit theory is correct (despite umpteen years & 12 million spent etc)

There's no proof either way but plenty of evidence that indicates innocence

[Wonderfulspam]

There's no proof either way but plenty of evidence that indicates innocence

Such as?

The parents claims.

Some (ridiculous) sightings.

"Not suspects".

I think that about covers it.

[Brietta]

What is it about the Archiving Dispatch that is so difficult for some members to take on board and what is it that can't be understood from it that nothing the original investigators thought indicated Madeleine's parents of complicity in the crime against her was of the slightest significance when investigated by a competent team of investigators.


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To this can be added that, in reality, none of the indications that led to their constitution as arguidos was later confirmed or consolidated.
If not, let us see:

• the information concerning a previous alert of the media – before the police – was not confirmed
• the traces that were marked by the dogs were not ratified in laboratory
• and the initial indications from the above transcribed email, better clarified at a later date, ended up being revealed as innocuous

The Republic’s Prosecutor (José de Magalhães e Menezes)
The Joint General Prosecutor (João Melchior Gomes)

[G-Unit]

You quoted from exactly the same source which identified the dogs which were on standby in May but only allowed to make an appearance three months after the event.  Didn't you notice ... or have you extraordinarily never heard of them, particularly since you used a source dedicated to their exploits

Snip
"The dogs were put on standby to go to the Algarve within days of Madeleine’s disappearance.
 
"You would expect the Portuguese to make use of the best resources available to them, but they repeatedly ignore the offers of assistance."
 
The dogs include a spaniel whose sense of smell is so keen she can sniff traces of blood on a weapon even after it has been scrubbed clean.
 
But the source warned: "They work most effectively within a 28-day time frame. After that the scent becomes much weaker."
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id157.htm


Why do you think the offer of these "specialist" dogs was refused ... but ordinary run of the mill British trackers of which you opine "The Portuguese had good tracker dogs of their own." seem to have had the run of the place.
Did they ??

Why do you suppose the initial Portuguese investigators didn't wasn't to use the alleged two best tools in the box to find Madeleine?

I think there's some selective quoting going on there. Here's what was said about these dogs;

Two dogs attached to Britain's National Policing Improvement Agency have developed such powerful tracking skills they can follow a scent for miles, even one up to 28 days old.
 
By sniffing an item of Maddie's clothing, they could trace a trail that might finally unlock the mystery of the four-year-old's disappearance.

"These dogs have immense capability. Their tracking skills are among the finest in the world.
 
"The dogs were put on standby to go to the Algarve within days of Madeleine’s disappearance.
 
"You would expect the Portuguese to make use of the best resources available to them, but they repeatedly ignore the offers of assistance."

Sounds like tracker dogs to me, although they also appear to mention Keela. Neither Eddie nor Keela were tracker dogs, so this article wasn't describing them.

[Brietta]

I think there's some selective quoting going on there. Here's what was said about these dogs;

Two dogs attached to Britain's National Policing Improvement Agency have developed such powerful tracking skills they can follow a scent for miles, even one up to 28 days old.
 
By sniffing an item of Maddie's clothing, they could trace a trail that might finally unlock the mystery of the four-year-old's disappearance.

"These dogs have immense capability. Their tracking skills are among the finest in the world.
 
"The dogs were put on standby to go to the Algarve within days of Madeleine’s disappearance.
 
"You would expect the Portuguese to make use of the best resources available to them, but they repeatedly ignore the offers of assistance."

Sounds like tracker dogs to me, although they also appear to mention Keela. Neither Eddie nor Keela were tracker dogs, so this article wasn't describing them.

Please, please do have it your very own way I really don't "do" arguing black is white. 
Your accusation of "selective posting" is risible.  Anyone who is especially riven by this fascinating discourse can follow the link I have used https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id157.htm and/ or the link you have used https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id157.htm and everyone can make up their own mind. 

My last word on the non-issue is that in my opinion the fact the page is headed Eddie and Keela * A brief introduction to the work of Eddie and Keela, as well as general information regarding the work of cadaver dogs rather gives the game away as to exactly which two dogs are under discussion; followed by the list below which outlines Eddie and Keela's eneavours to the exclusion of all others.

• Keela's Nose Makes Her Top Dog, 30 December 2005
• UK's No1 Sherlock Bones, 30 December 2005
• On scent of success: sniffer dog Keela earns more than her Chief Constable, 30 December 2005
• Portuguese police turned down offer of dog help, 23 May 2007
• Top sniffer dog to join Maddy search, 08 August 2007
• Four-legged sniffers of the truth, 08 August 2007
• The English sniffer dogs that are helping in the hunt for Madeleine, 10 August 2007
• Specialized K-9 to Aid in Ga. Search, 14 September 2007
• Madeleine: McCanns consult American lawyers over 'cadaver dog' evidence, 16 September 2007
• Gerry McCann attacks handling of sniffer dogs, 17 December 2007
• How can a dog sniff through concrete?, 26 February 2008
• Report of PJ discards abduction theory, 05 July 2008
• 'Send In The Dogs' - ITV documentary, 22 July 2008
• English defended the use of the dogs, 20 July 2008
• The dogs' work as described by their own handler, 07 August 2008

Snip
If, or as seems increasingly likely, when, the full story of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is revealed, one question will demand an answer: why did detectives wait three months before bringing in sniffer dogs?
_________________________________________________________________________


The point made in my initial post using Kate McCann as my primary source is that the initial investigators blocked practical assistance offered by the British police at a time when all such assistance was of paramount importance as far as Madeleine McCann was concerned.
 
In my opinion the attitude and ineptitude of the Amaral led initial investigation resulted in the worst possible decisions throughout until Amaral's sacking from her case for Madeleine McCann.
Over twelve years down the line the results of that remain apparent.

[G-Unit]

Please, please do have it your very own way I really don't "do" arguing black is white. 
Your accusation of "selective posting" is risible.  Anyone who is especially riven by this fascinating discourse can follow the link I have used https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id157.htm and/ or the link you have used https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id157.htm and everyone can make up their own mind. 

My last word on the non-issue is that in my opinion the fact the page is headed Eddie and Keela * A brief introduction to the work of Eddie and Keela, as well as general information regarding the work of cadaver dogs rather gives the game away as to exactly which two dogs are under discussion; followed by the list below which outlines Eddie and Keela's eneavours to the exclusion of all others.

• Keela's Nose Makes Her Top Dog, 30 December 2005
• UK's No1 Sherlock Bones, 30 December 2005
• On scent of success: sniffer dog Keela earns more than her Chief Constable, 30 December 2005
• Portuguese police turned down offer of dog help, 23 May 2007
• Top sniffer dog to join Maddy search, 08 August 2007
• Four-legged sniffers of the truth, 08 August 2007
• The English sniffer dogs that are helping in the hunt for Madeleine, 10 August 2007
• Specialized K-9 to Aid in Ga. Search, 14 September 2007
• Madeleine: McCanns consult American lawyers over 'cadaver dog' evidence, 16 September 2007
• Gerry McCann attacks handling of sniffer dogs, 17 December 2007
• How can a dog sniff through concrete?, 26 February 2008
• Report of PJ discards abduction theory, 05 July 2008
• 'Send In The Dogs' - ITV documentary, 22 July 2008
• English defended the use of the dogs, 20 July 2008
• The dogs' work as described by their own handler, 07 August 2008

Snip
If, or as seems increasingly likely, when, the full story of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is revealed, one question will demand an answer: why did detectives wait three months before bringing in sniffer dogs?
_________________________________________________________________________


The point made in my initial post using Kate McCann as my primary source is that the initial investigators blocked practical assistance offered by the British police at a time when all such assistance was of paramount importance as far as Madeleine McCann was concerned.
 
In my opinion the attitude and ineptitude of the Amaral led initial investigation resulted in the worst possible decisions throughout until Amaral's sacking from her case for Madeleine McCann.
Over twelve years down the line the results of that remain apparent.

I wonder why the UK police wanted to bring in cadaver dogs on 7th May? The Portuguese were still searching for a live child.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I wonder why the UK police wanted to bring in cadaver dogs on 7th May? The Portuguese were still searching for a live child.

What a strange question IMO.

[Eleanor]

Are you serious?

Your every post in this forum oozes with support for the McCanns.

And yours do what, exactly?

[Vertigo Swirl]

No, it is your opinion.

It hasn't been proven that the McCanns didn't do it.

It hasn’t been proven that Robert Murat or Pamela Fenn’s niece didn’t do it either. 

[Brietta]

I wonder why the UK police wanted to bring in cadaver dogs on 7th May? The Portuguese were still searching for a live child.

I wonder why the British liaison officers were uncomfortable with the Portuguese decision to rule a couple out of the inquiry.
madeleine  Kate McCann

[sadie]

I wonder why the British liaison officers were uncomfortable with the Portuguese decision to rule a couple out of the inquiry.
madeleine  Kate McCann

Hmmm.    Who were they Brie?

[Brietta]

Hmmm.    Who were they Brie?

Kate didn't say who they were, Sadie.  So I've no idea but obviously Kate and Gerry knew who they were. Kate writes ...
"What was forthcoming, particularly in terms of the quality and depth of the investigation, would become
increasingly concerning to us.
Grounds for elimination, for instance, often seemed very flimsy. 
I remember Gerry and me exchanging quizzical looks after the FLOs tried to explain how one couple had been ruled out of the inquiry."

A bit ironic considering the lengths the original investigators went to as far as Kate and Gerry were concerned.

[Anthro]

Hi Brietta and Sadie,

Could this be the couple Kate referred to in her publication?

“ POLICE are investigating a childless couple who they suspect could have abducted missing Madeleine McCann.
The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child after becoming frustrated with adoption red tape, are among the list of 38 new suspects drawn up by British cops.

A review by London’s Metropolitan police led them to the couple and detectives are now investigating the theory that they smuggled the missing toddler out of Portugal aboard a boat.

The man had inherited a large amount of money around the time Maddie disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, and it’s believed he could have used the money to set up a new life.

And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.

This week cops said there is still no proof she is dead.

Other theories centered around paedophile gangs and lone sex offenders, but the investigation is now focusing on one individual who, having struggled with adoption procedures in Portugal, threatened to kidnap a child.

The individual is believed to have told friends that he was so frustrated with adoption procedures in a number of countries that “he would take his own child” if necessary.

The Metropolitan Police have been aware of this line of inquiry for the past two years, but it’s only since British PM David Cameron ordered a fresh review that they had the resources to follow it up independently of the Portuguese authorities.

Sources close to the new investigation have told the Sunday World that they believe Madeleine was stalked and targeted for abduction in the days before she disappeared.

The English suspect, who has never been interviewed by UK or Portuguese Police officers, is understood to have been driving a four-wheel drive car at the time of the kidnapping.

The theory suggests that the planned abduction of Maddie involved at least two people and it is claimed that the suspect used a newly-purchased yacht, which was moored about an hour away from Praia da Luz, to leave the country.

Scotland Yard officers involved in the new probe also believe that it is likely the suspect had somehow accessed a key to apartment 5A, where the McCanns stayed with their three children.”

[Eleanor]

Hi Brietta and Sadie,

Could this be the couple Kate referred to in her publication?

“ POLICE are investigating a childless couple who they suspect could have abducted missing Madeleine McCann.
The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child after becoming frustrated with adoption red tape, are among the list of 38 new suspects drawn up by British cops.

A review by London’s Metropolitan police led them to the couple and detectives are now investigating the theory that they smuggled the missing toddler out of Portugal aboard a boat.

The man had inherited a large amount of money around the time Maddie disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, and it’s believed he could have used the money to set up a new life.

And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.

This week cops said there is still no proof she is dead.

Other theories centered around paedophile gangs and lone sex offenders, but the investigation is now focusing on one individual who, having struggled with adoption procedures in Portugal, threatened to kidnap a child.

The individual is believed to have told friends that he was so frustrated with adoption procedures in a number of countries that “he would take his own child” if necessary.

The Metropolitan Police have been aware of this line of inquiry for the past two years, but it’s only since British PM David Cameron ordered a fresh review that they had the resources to follow it up independently of the Portuguese authorities.

Sources close to the new investigation have told the Sunday World that they believe Madeleine was stalked and targeted for abduction in the days before she disappeared.

The English suspect, who has never been interviewed by UK or Portuguese Police officers, is understood to have been driving a four-wheel drive car at the time of the kidnapping.

The theory suggests that the planned abduction of Maddie involved at least two people and it is claimed that the suspect used a newly-purchased yacht, which was moored about an hour away from Praia da Luz, to leave the country.

Scotland Yard officers involved in the new probe also believe that it is likely the suspect had somehow accessed a key to apartment 5A, where the McCanns stayed with their three children.”

This is a very good comment.  It covers most of how I feel about this case.  I believe that Madeleine was taken off by boat, probably to some other part of the World.

I believe that Madeleine is still alive and unaware of who she is.

[barrier]

Hi Brietta and Sadie,

Could this be the couple Kate referred to in her publication?

“ POLICE are investigating a childless couple who they suspect could have abducted missing Madeleine McCann.
The pair, who had told friends they would kidnap a child after becoming frustrated with adoption red tape, are among the list of 38 new suspects drawn up by British cops.

A review by London’s Metropolitan police led them to the couple and detectives are now investigating the theory that they smuggled the missing toddler out of Portugal aboard a boat.

The man had inherited a large amount of money around the time Maddie disappeared on May 3, 2007, from her family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, and it’s believed he could have used the money to set up a new life.

And it’s the childless couple theory that is fuelling the last remaining hope that Maddie could still be alive.

This week cops said there is still no proof she is dead.

Other theories centered around paedophile gangs and lone sex offenders, but the investigation is now focusing on one individual who, having struggled with adoption procedures in Portugal, threatened to kidnap a child.

The individual is believed to have told friends that he was so frustrated with adoption procedures in a number of countries that “he would take his own child” if necessary.

The Metropolitan Police have been aware of this line of inquiry for the past two years, but it’s only since British PM David Cameron ordered a fresh review that they had the resources to follow it up independently of the Portuguese authorities.

Sources close to the new investigation have told the Sunday World that they believe Madeleine was stalked and targeted for abduction in the days before she disappeared.

The English suspect, who has never been interviewed by UK or Portuguese Police officers, is understood to have been driving a four-wheel drive car at the time of the kidnapping.

The theory suggests that the planned abduction of Maddie involved at least two people and it is claimed that the suspect used a newly-purchased yacht, which was moored about an hour away from Praia da Luz, to leave the country.

Scotland Yard officers involved in the new probe also believe that it is likely the suspect had somehow accessed a key to apartment 5A, where the McCanns stayed with their three children.”

Hi,Anthro link to the tale please,way back in 2013 or there abouts if memory serves.