Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?

[Mr Gray]

Did you ever come across the story that explained the alerts by claiming KM had attended several PMs before the holiday?

The only explanation I recall you discussing was Grime encouraging false alerts (maybe even subconsciously). This makes no sense to me. Why would Grime undermine the dog’s credibility?

I've explained it all before....what do you think of the alert to cuddle cat....the PJ couldn't even be bothered to test it

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I've explained it all before....what do you think of the alert to cuddle cat....the PJ couldn't even be bothered to test it

All I recall you explaining is your theory that Grime was giving cues. That makes no sense at all.

An alert to Cuddle Cat would suggest that Eddie has detected cadaver odour or blood on the toy. How do you explain it?

[Brietta]

No, the words of the handlers match the picture I posted. The dogs went to the car park opposite the Tapas entrance, not to the supermarket car park.

Don't the handlers mention turning left on exiting the lane and crossing the road as far as the lampost before turning back?

[Mr Gray]

I think if there is cadaver scent present the dogs will find it but the problems arise when it isnt and the dogs are called back to places they have shown no interest in....not once but sometimes twice like the car. i think thats when false alerts arise. we know that the dogs were not called back to any other car and were not called back in any other apartment. if the alerts were genuine...then the mCanns would have been arrested. SY do not consider maddie to be dead....so they don't consider the alerts reliable too. as we know cadaver odour takes time to develop...if the alerts are genuine ..Breukner is innocent and abduction and woke and wandered are impossible...that only leaves the McCanns.

therefore if the alerts are genuine...no abduction...no woke and wandered...its  a simple as that

[Mr Gray]

All I recall you explaining is your theory that Grime was giving cues. That makes no sense at all.

An alert to Cuddle Cat would suggest that Eddie has detected cadaver odour or blood on the toy. How do you explain it?

I dont think eddie alerted to cuddle cat...have you watched the video

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I think if there is cadaver scent present the dogs will find it but the problems arise when it isnt and the dogs are called back to places they have shown no interest in....not once but sometimes twice like the car. i think thats when false alerts arise. we know that the dogs were not called back to any other car and were not called back in any other apartment. if the alerts were genuine...then the mCanns would have been arrested. SY do not consider maddie to be dead....so they don't consider the alerts reliable too. as we know cadaver odour takes time to develop...if the alerts are genuine ..Breukner is innocent and abduction and woke and wandered are impossible...that only leaves the McCanns.

therefore if the alerts are genuine...no abduction...no woke and wandered...its  a simple as that

I think it's obvious that Eddie has detected what he is trained to detect before he is "called back" to the car. I don't claim to be an expert but I do have four dogs including two lurchers. I know when they have detected rabbit odour!! And your explanation fails miserably to explain why Eddie only "false" alerts at items connected to the one family.

[Mr Gray]

I think it's obvious that Eddie has detected what he is trained to detect before he is "called back" to the car. I don't claim to be an expert but I do have four dogs including two lurchers. I know when they have detected rabbit odour!! And your explanation fails miserably to explain why Eddie only "false" alerts at items connected to the one family.

There was blood in the car...on the key ring. If eddie detected as you think...why doesnt grime say ...in my opinion the dog detected cadaver odour. Grime is absolutely free to voice his opinion. If the alerts are relaible then why havent the mcCanns  been arrested.....

My explanation is  a perfect explanation for the alerts. I tried to explain to you about eddies reaction to blood that hadnt dried in situ and you couldnt understand that so it doesnt surprise me you dont find my explanation possible

[G-Unit]

Don't the handlers mention turning left on exiting the lane and crossing the road as far as the lampost before turning back?

No, but if you have the quote...

The point is they didn't go to the supermarket car park, neither did they follow the route Anthro posted.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I dont think eddie alerted to cuddle cat...have you watched the video

No not recently. Was it Keela? Ah just realised what you're insinuating.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

There was blood in the car...on the key ring. If eddie detected as you think...why doesnt grime say ...in my opinion the dog detected cadaver odour. Grime is absolutely free to voice his opinion. If the alerts are relaible then why havent the mcCanns  been arrested.....

My explanation is  a perfect explanation for the alerts. I tried to explain to you about eddies reaction to blood that hadnt dried in situ and you couldnt understand that so it doesnt surprise me you dont find my explanation possible

I did understand your point about Eddie's alert to blood. I'm just not convinced by your explanation regarding all the alerts.

[Mr Gray]

No not recently. Was it Keela? Ah just realised what you're insinuating.

for someone who psts so much about the alerts you dont seem up to speed with the facts.
According to Grime eddie alerted to Cuddle cat....which I think is rubbish

this is what grime said about the alert to the car..

It is my view that it is possible that the EVRD is alerting to 'cadaver scent'
contaminant or human blood scent. No evidential or intelligence reliability can
be made from this alert unless it can be confirmed with corroborating
evidence.

[Mr Gray]

I did understand your point about Eddie's alert to blood. I'm just not convinced by your explanation regarding all the alerts.

so you understand that an alert by Eddie....with no alert by Keela ...could be blood in some circumstances

[pathfinder73]

All I recall you explaining is your theory that Grime was giving cues. That makes no sense at all.

An alert to Cuddle Cat would suggest that Eddie has detected cadaver odour or blood on the toy. How do you explain it?

It wasn't blood.

"The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened separately."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Mr Gray]

It wasn't blood.

"The CSI dog did not alert to the toy when screened separately."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

It could have been blood that hadnt dried in situ...but I dont think eddie alerted to it anyway

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

There was blood in the car...on the key ring. If eddie detected as you think...why doesnt grime say ...in my opinion the dog detected cadaver odour. Grime is absolutely free to voice his opinion. If the alerts are relaible then why havent the mcCanns  been arrested.....

Because DNA analysis of human cellular material found in some of the places the dogs alerted was "inconclusive". However as you well know - science moves forward at quite a pace.