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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1455 on: July 10, 2020, 12:42:40 PM »
He's offered to do it for free.... Next excuse?

Perlin offers the initial scan which takes two weeks for free....As I understand from his website ...he offers this free to every client. If you want real evidence that can be used in court then theres a charge ..30 to 40 K as I understand.
So are Perlins claims and offer motivated by money.

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1456 on: July 10, 2020, 12:59:08 PM »
Are you really telling me you haven't read the files where you will find it written in words of one syllable exactly whose blood it is that was found under the tiles?

Yes I have read that the sample on swab from 3a was taken from under the lifted floor tiles and not in the corner of the room.

I also quoted from the FSS report as to whose DNA it might have been but there was more than one contributor so the result was inconclusive:    "low level indications of DNA from more than one person. However, all of the confirmed DNA components within this result match the corresponding components in the DNA profile of Madeline McCann."


Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1457 on: July 10, 2020, 01:03:00 PM »
Do you have a cite?

It was from an online petition.

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-maddie-demand-scotland-yard-to-hand-over-crucial-dna-evidence-to-leading-expert-dr-perlin

"In a recent Podcast series by Mark Saunokonoko and 9news.com.au, the journalist questions all of the evidence in the case and interviews Dr Mark Perlin himself.

He told Nine’s podcast Maddie: “If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice."

You can listen to that episode HERE: https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/the-dna (it may give you a new view on why the retesting of this DNA evidence is crucial.)

So far all results have been found to be INCONCLUSIVE, but as this case is now over 12 years old, DNA technology has advanced to a point where Dr Perlin's method 'TrueAllele®' could uncover the truth.

"When science fails, crimes go unsolved or innocents are punished. Crime labs routinely misinterpret their DNA data, reporting wrong match statistics or nothing at all. TrueAllele® computing can accurately recover this lost DNA evidence."

Working as an expert witness and whose technology is over-turning, or ensuring convictions all over the world, Dr Perlin has offered to test this evidence completely FREE.

However the UK police force and Operation Grange has yet to accept Dr Perlin's gracious Pro bono offer. Initially set-up by Theresa May (now the UK Prime Minister) to discover the truth behind her disappearance, the Operation has cost the UK taxpayer well over £10million.

In an effort to discover the truth for both Kate & Gerry Mccann, as well as the public, we ask for your signatures to get this noticed by the people in charge of the official investigation.

If nothing can be determined or proven, we've lost nothing.

However, if new evidence can be recovered, it could provide a much needed breakthrough in the case that's captured the interest of the general public. "

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1458 on: July 10, 2020, 01:19:31 PM »
It was from an online petition.

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-maddie-demand-scotland-yard-to-hand-over-crucial-dna-evidence-to-leading-expert-dr-perlin

"In a recent Podcast series by Mark Saunokonoko and 9news.com.au, the journalist questions all of the evidence in the case and interviews Dr Mark Perlin himself.

He told Nine’s podcast Maddie: “If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice."

You can listen to that episode HERE: https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/the-dna (it may give you a new view on why the retesting of this DNA evidence is crucial.)

So far all results have been found to be INCONCLUSIVE, but as this case is now over 12 years old, DNA technology has advanced to a point where Dr Perlin's method 'TrueAllele®' could uncover the truth.

"When science fails, crimes go unsolved or innocents are punished. Crime labs routinely misinterpret their DNA data, reporting wrong match statistics or nothing at all. TrueAllele® computing can accurately recover this lost DNA evidence."

Working as an expert witness and whose technology is over-turning, or ensuring convictions all over the world, Dr Perlin has offered to test this evidence completely FREE.

However the UK police force and Operation Grange has yet to accept Dr Perlin's gracious Pro bono offer. Initially set-up by Theresa May (now the UK Prime Minister) to discover the truth behind her disappearance, the Operation has cost the UK taxpayer well over £10million.

In an effort to discover the truth for both Kate & Gerry Mccann, as well as the public, we ask for your signatures to get this noticed by the people in charge of the official investigation.

If nothing can be determined or proven, we've lost nothing.

However, if new evidence can be recovered, it could provide a much needed breakthrough in the case that's captured the interest of the general public. "


It's the initial scan that's free...it's free to all his clients

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1459 on: July 10, 2020, 01:29:08 PM »
It's the initial scan that's free...it's free to all his clients

Yes I understand that - but where have you seen that is all he is offering in this case, and that he states he's not offering the complete analysis pro bono?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1460 on: July 10, 2020, 01:46:41 PM »
Yes I understand that - but where have you seen that is all he is offering in this case, and that he states he's not offering the complete analysis pro bono?

Because he says what he will offer takes two weeks...which is what the free scan takes

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1461 on: July 10, 2020, 02:00:55 PM »
Because he says what he will offer takes two weeks...which is what the free scan takes

He actually says he is confident of a conclusive result in two weeks.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1462 on: July 10, 2020, 02:06:34 PM »
He actually says he is confident of a conclusive result in two weeks.

Is that him or MS saying that

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1463 on: July 10, 2020, 02:08:41 PM »
Is that him or MS saying that

I'll ask.... and get back to you with the answer.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1464 on: July 10, 2020, 02:09:42 PM »
He actually says he is confident of a conclusive result in two weeks.

this is from their website..

Send us your lab's "inconclusive" DNA data files. Our free TrueAllele screening will quickly let you Know the Answer®. Who left their DNA on each evidence item? And who didn't? Is there DNA from an unknown person? Did your guy do it?

so is their service free to everyone.....this looks like what hes offerring in this case

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1465 on: July 10, 2020, 02:13:07 PM »
this is from their website..

Send us your lab's "inconclusive" DNA data files. Our free TrueAllele screening will quickly let you Know the Answer®. Who left their DNA on each evidence item? And who didn't? Is there DNA from an unknown person? Did your guy do it?

so is their service free to everyone.....this looks like what hes offerring in this case

So he claims he can find out "who left their DNA on each evidence item" pro bono.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1466 on: July 10, 2020, 05:38:09 PM »
It was from an online petition.

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-maddie-demand-scotland-yard-to-hand-over-crucial-dna-evidence-to-leading-expert-dr-perlin

"In a recent Podcast series by Mark Saunokonoko and 9news.com.au, the journalist questions all of the evidence in the case and interviews Dr Mark Perlin himself.

He told Nine’s podcast Maddie: “If a lab can produce informative data, even if it is complex and mixed, but they can't interpret it then you can have tremendous injustice."

You can listen to that episode HERE: https://omny.fm/shows/maddie/the-dna (it may give you a new view on why the retesting of this DNA evidence is crucial.)

So far all results have been found to be INCONCLUSIVE, but as this case is now over 12 years old, DNA technology has advanced to a point where Dr Perlin's method 'TrueAllele®' could uncover the truth.

"When science fails, crimes go unsolved or innocents are punished. Crime labs routinely misinterpret their DNA data, reporting wrong match statistics or nothing at all. TrueAllele® computing can accurately recover this lost DNA evidence."

Working as an expert witness and whose technology is over-turning, or ensuring convictions all over the world, Dr Perlin has offered to test this evidence completely FREE.

However the UK police force and Operation Grange has yet to accept Dr Perlin's gracious Pro bono offer. Initially set-up by Theresa May (now the UK Prime Minister) to discover the truth behind her disappearance, the Operation has cost the UK taxpayer well over £10million.

In an effort to discover the truth for both Kate & Gerry Mccann, as well as the public, we ask for your signatures to get this noticed by the people in charge of the official investigation.

If nothing can be determined or proven, we've lost nothing.

However, if new evidence can be recovered, it could provide a much needed breakthrough in the case that's captured the interest of the general public. "

Gosh, it wasn’t a very successful petition.  I wonder why not?  Do you have a more robust cite, ie one from Dr Perlin himself perhaps offering his services for free?  Thanks in advance.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1467 on: July 10, 2020, 05:39:24 PM »
So he claims he can find out "who left their DNA on each evidence item" pro bono.
Let’s put it to the test.  Anyone got some DNA they want testing for free?  Just bung it in a jiffy and send it to Dr P!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1468 on: July 10, 2020, 05:46:47 PM »
Let’s put it to the test.  Anyone got some DNA they want testing for free?  Just bung it in a jiffy and send it to Dr P!

His methods are tested in peer reviewed forensic science journals.



Offline Eleanor

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1469 on: July 10, 2020, 05:49:57 PM »
His methods are tested in peer reviewed forensic science journals.

Good one.  Probably best the stay there.