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Offline Brietta

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1170 on: July 01, 2020, 01:09:12 PM »
I think you must have missed their response to a FOI request with regards to the DNA data. It was posted on this site yesterday or the day before. The evidence forms part of an on-going investigation.

Refresh my memory please ... and see if you can work  something about 'dog alerts' into your reply just to give a nod to the thread title.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Billy Whizz Fan Club

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1171 on: July 01, 2020, 04:39:38 PM »

What an ignorant sweeping statement

What? The response to the FOI request?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1172 on: July 01, 2020, 08:34:25 PM »

You’re hell bent on protecting him, aren’t you?

Doing new tests is NOT protecting him! Are you mad? Performing new tests could prove that evil German was involved! As you think he is why would you not want new tests?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1173 on: July 02, 2020, 06:58:21 AM »
And no-one seeing this?

It was dark, and Christian Buerbeck was a “professional” burglar — he knew how to get in and out of properties within minutes and without being seen.

It’s very simple to understand...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1174 on: July 02, 2020, 07:46:14 AM »
Cites are supposed to be provided, but that's something you usually refuse to comply with. You claimed the Smiths arrived in Portugal on 3rd May; where is your cite? I know you are wrong and I said so. If you want people to believe what you said I suggest you find the cite you need.


You’re constantly banging on about providing cites, but not all cites are correct. Didn’t you know that?

Of course I sometimes makes occasional errors, but they’re minor ones — not imaginary delusions I’ve dreamed up in my head out of desperation.

Yep, I got travel details mixed up: they hadn’t travelled that day — Mr Smith’s son, DIL & grandchildren were flying BACK to Ireland about 10 hours after their alleged sighting.

But the FACT remains that the Smith family had spent that last night of their holiday (except Smith and his wife who were staying on) dining and drinking out and then ending it at Kelly’s Bar for another top-up of booze. Mr Smith’s receipt (which I have a copy of) shows that he paid for his drink at 21:50 hours.

His son paid for his at 21:49 hours.

The walk from Kelly’s bar to where the sighting took place was approximately 5/10 minutes when you take into account his DIL was feeling sick, the children were young, and they would have been strolling back to their apartment.

Mr Smith admitted it was dark when they passed the man carrying a child — who was walking slap bang in the middle of the road (hardly a “hiding” action) and claimed the man was walking at a pace between “fast walking/running”. The passing of each other must have been fleeting, yet despite Mr Smith having been drinking, and NOT wearing his glasses, he seemed to go into some depth about the man and child’s appearance.


He described the man as around 5”7” or 5”8”, slim, looked like a local rather than tourist, and was suntanned.

Gerry McCann is 6”2”; has a large build fairly muscular, broad frame; and wasn’t suntanned. For much of the McCanns’ holiday it had been quite cold, and they’d had several days of rain.

I’ll supply photographs of Gerry taken that very day, where you’ll see he’s certainly not suntanned (one of the Smith group described the man as “sunburnt”) and said he was wearing a dark jacket, long trousers and looked maybe Mediterranean.

Mr Smith said the man defintely wasn’t Robert Murret (sp?) the first suspect, because he’d met him twice previously in Portugal, in a bar, but said he was inebriated when he saw him, so it was “hazy”. Mr Smith may have been inebriated on May 3rd too — he didn’t say — but he’d definitely been drinking, and as he wasn’t wearing his glasses his eyesight obviously wasn’t perfect. And it was dark too...

There’s also irrefutable proof that Gerry was INSIDE the Tapas Bar at 10pm when Kate went to do her check on the children, which MEANS the man the Smith family saw could not possibly have been Gerry. That’s why the Portuguese police themselves didn’t bother making appeals — they knew it wasn’t Gerry.

The police also has data  from both Gerry and Kate’s mobile phone provider which showed all the numbers they called, received, all the text message timings, and location.

This time-wasting nonsense is wearying.

Oh, just to add...had that man the Smith family saw been Maddie’s abductor, it’s obvious he knew the area and back streets very well — as CB would have. The route he’d have to of taken from the OC is in a zig-zag, meaning he knew the back roads and where they led. Gerry had never been to the resort before, and as they’d spent all their days inside the complex (by the pool when it wasn’t raining, playing tennis etc) or at the beach with his family, he wouldn’t have even known where the back streets led. It’s all nonsense to suggest that man was Gerry when witnesses proved where he was at 10pm. Madness.

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Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1175 on: July 02, 2020, 07:54:45 AM »
Gerry McCann is 6”2”; has a large build fairly muscular, broad frame; and wasn’t suntanned. For much of the
I didn't read the whole post, because I've learnt to skim through the dross. But this jumped out.
You are on a colossal wind up.

Gerry is literally 6" shorter than your description. And 'large build', 'fairly muscular'?
Are you confusing Gerry with Henry Cavill?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1176 on: July 02, 2020, 07:55:37 AM »
I never said I wanted to have a drink with him.

I said I'd rather have a beer with him than the McCanns.

It's what's known as wumming, & if that's illegal then I'm surprised the police haven't arrested me years ago, rather than pursuing fictional child abductors.

So beer isn’t a drink?

And if you’d consider having a drink with Christian Buerbeck that shows what sort of person you are

Have you been fixated with Gerry and Kate for years? Why?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1177 on: July 02, 2020, 08:00:37 AM »
Doing new tests is NOT protecting him! Are you mad? Performing new tests could prove that evil German was involved! As you think he is why would you not want new tests?


I can’t be bothered to scroll back for what you’re referring to, but I think it may be when you suggested taking new DNA testing from DATA. You can’t do that — it isn’t organic.

No, I am not mad, and I’m not WEIRD, either...unlike some who would enjoy a beer with a paedophilic rapist
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Offline The General

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1178 on: July 02, 2020, 08:01:51 AM »

I can’t be bothered to scroll back for what you’re referring to, but I think it may be when you suggested taking new DNA testing from DATA. You can’t do that — it isn’t organic.

No, I am not mad, and I’m now WEIRD, either...unlike some who would enjoy a beer with a paedophilic rapist
Testing the data is possible. At least pretend to try to catch up.
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Offline Myster

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1179 on: July 02, 2020, 08:10:07 AM »
I didn't read the whole post, because I've learnt to skim through the dross. But this jumped out.
You are on a colossal wind up.

Gerry is literally 6" shorter than your description. And 'large build', 'fairly muscular'?
Are you confusing Gerry with Henry Cavill?
Depends whether you believe Sexy Sadie or not...

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1101.msg61862#msg61862
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1180 on: July 02, 2020, 08:11:57 AM »
I didn't read the whole post, because I've learnt to skim through the dross. But this jumped out.
You are on a colossal wind up.

Gerry is literally 6" shorter than your description. And 'large build', 'fairly muscular'?
Are you confusing Gerry with Henry Cavill?



I usually always skip your posts after seeing your peculiar comments on the Bamber forum

Gerry is NOT short. He’s not what you’d describe as slim — he’s well-built, broad, but not fat. He’s tall, 6”2” according to reports.

If you’re suggesting Gerry is a thin little weed you need new glasses









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Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1181 on: July 02, 2020, 08:35:57 AM »
Depends whether you believe Sexy Sadie or not...

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1101.msg61862#msg61862

He was white of pale complexion, about 5'10'' to 6' 00'' with a soft Glaswegian accent. He has dark hair which was short. He was of athletic build.
Jez Wilkins w/s 7/5/07
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1182 on: July 02, 2020, 08:37:46 AM »
Depends whether you believe Sexy Sadie or not...

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1101.msg61862#msg61862


Kate McCann is 5”7” and you can see by the photographs Gerry is much taller than her...



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Offline G-Unit

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1183 on: July 02, 2020, 09:08:28 AM »

You’re constantly banging on about providing cites, but not all cites are correct. Didn’t you know that?

Of course I sometimes makes occasional errors, but they’re minor ones — not imaginary delusions I’ve dreamed up in my head out of desperation.

Yep, I got travel details mixed up: they hadn’t travelled that day — Mr Smith’s son, DIL & grandchildren were flying BACK to Ireland about 10 hours after their alleged sighting.

But the FACT remains that the Smith family had spent that last night of their holiday (except Smith and his wife who were staying on) dining and drinking out and then ending it at Kelly’s Bar for another top-up of booze. Mr Smith’s receipt (which I have a copy of) shows that he paid for his drink at 21:50 hours.

His son paid for his at 21:49 hours.

The walk from Kelly’s bar to where the sighting took place was approximately 5/10 minutes when you take into account his DIL was feeling sick, the children were young, and they would have been strolling back to their apartment.

Mr Smith admitted it was dark when they passed the man carrying a child — who was walking slap bang in the middle of the road (hardly a “hiding” action) and claimed the man was walking at a pace between “fast walking/running”. The passing of each other must have been fleeting, yet despite Mr Smith having been drinking, and NOT wearing his glasses, he seemed to go into some depth about the man and child’s appearance.


He described the man as around 5”7” or 5”8”, slim, looked like a local rather than tourist, and was suntanned.

Gerry McCann is 6”2”; has a large build fairly muscular, broad frame; and wasn’t suntanned. For much of the McCanns’ holiday it had been quite cold, and they’d had several days of rain.

I’ll supply photographs of Gerry taken that very day, where you’ll see he’s certainly not suntanned (one of the Smith group described the man as “sunburnt”) and said he was wearing a dark jacket, long trousers and looked maybe Mediterranean.

Mr Smith said the man defintely wasn’t Robert Murret (sp?) the first suspect, because he’d met him twice previously in Portugal, in a bar, but said he was inebriated when he saw him, so it was “hazy”. Mr Smith may have been inebriated on May 3rd too — he didn’t say — but he’d definitely been drinking, and as he wasn’t wearing his glasses his eyesight obviously wasn’t perfect. And it was dark too...

There’s also irrefutable proof that Gerry was INSIDE the Tapas Bar at 10pm when Kate went to do her check on the children, which MEANS the man the Smith family saw could not possibly have been Gerry. That’s why the Portuguese police themselves didn’t bother making appeals — they knew it wasn’t Gerry.

The police also has data  from both Gerry and Kate’s mobile phone provider which showed all the numbers they called, received, all the text message timings, and location.

This time-wasting nonsense is wearying.

Oh, just to add...had that man the Smith family saw been Maddie’s abductor, it’s obvious he knew the area and back streets very well — as CB would have. The route he’d have to of taken from the OC is in a zig-zag, meaning he knew the back roads and where they led. Gerry had never been to the resort before, and as they’d spent all their days inside the complex (by the pool when it wasn’t raining, playing tennis etc) or at the beach with his family, he wouldn’t have even known where the back streets led. It’s all nonsense to suggest that man was Gerry when witnesses proved where he was at 10pm. Madness.

When you are supposedly quoting a witness statement there's no excuse for getting it wrong or failing to provide a cite.

Mr Smith said the man he saw was 175-180m tall. That's between 5'9" and 5'11". Jez Wilkins described Gerry McCann as 5'10" - 6'0". Where did you find information saying he was 6'2"?

Oh look; sunburn!



Muscular? I don't think so.

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Dog Alerts- Evidence or not?
« Reply #1184 on: July 02, 2020, 09:23:22 AM »
Testing the data is possible. At least pretend to try to catch up.


You can’t test it organically

It’s you who needs to catch up
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