White House Farm - ITV Drama Series - Part 2

[Holly Goodhead]

So?!

Whether the victims were prone in bed or standing in rooms they were easy targets.

[Myster]

And who should the producers show as perp?

I think if the producers were bothered about living relatives and the deceased victims they would not have made such a drama; drama being the operative word.

And I wonder how Mrs Taff Jones and her 3 children feel about the late Taff Jones portrayed in such a light.

And why is CC getting involved in all of this if not to make money?

It isn't a matter of should but will, i.e. the guy watching himself on TV in HMP Wakefield.

I agree that Taff Jones portrayal is way over the top though.

CC is only redressing the balance, so fair play to him...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCEssex/status/1215244514606096384

[Holly Goodhead]

No it does not!!!  Nevill was nowhere near the landing when shot.  The number and positions of the spent cartridges on the bedroom floor show that Nevill was shot first as he was getting out of bed having been disturbed by noises made by an intruder, i.e. Jeremy Bamber.

Yes it does!!!!

We've been through all this loads of time.  NB was not shot in the bedroom evidenced by the fact his blood was not found in there.  NB was shot on the landing as he was facing the perp stood inside the bedroom firing out onto the landing and this is supported by all the evidence: blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

[Holly Goodhead]

It isn't a matter of should but will, i.e. the guy watching himself on TV in HMP Wakefield.

I agree that Taff Jones portrayal is way over the top though.

CC is only redressing the balance, so fair play to him...

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCEssex/status/1215244514606096384

The producers make clear it is for viewers to decide hence the drama!

The tabloid media denigrated SC in the aftermath and CC himself was hardly complimentary about SC in his letter to NB. 

JB is entitled to claim his innocence and given the nature of the case by default he's putting SC in the frame.  But I'm not aware of him denigrating SC's character as others have done by referring to her as promiscuous and a drug taker. 

[Myster]

Yes it does!!!!

We've been through all this loads of time.  NB was not shot in the bedroom evidenced by the fact his blood was not found in there.  NB was shot on the landing as he was facing the perp stood inside the bedroom firing out onto the landing and this is supported by all the evidence: blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

Nevill's blood wasn't found on the landing/stairs carpet either, only on the downstairs hall wallpaper, five feet above the floor, from his left shoulder or arm injury as he staggered his way to the kitchen.

[puglove]

No it does not!!!  Nevill was nowhere near the landing when shot.  The number and positions of the spent cartridges on the bedroom floor show that Nevill was shot first as he was getting out of bed having been disturbed by noises made by an intruder, i.e. Jeremy Bamber.

Maybe Nevill grabbed his trousers from the bedroom floor and held them against his face to staunch the blood as he chased Bamber downstairs. Hence no blood from him in the bedroom, and the trousers ending up in the kitchen by Nevill's body.

[Holly Goodhead]

Nevill's blood wasn't found on the landing/stairs carpet either, only on the downstairs hall wallpaper, five feet above the floor, from his left shoulder or arm injury as he staggered his way to the kitchen.

Blood on the stairs wasn't tested.  If not NB, s who do you think it originated from?

[Holly Goodhead]

Maybe Nevill grabbed his trousers from the bedroom floor and held them against his face to staunch the blood as he chased Bamber downstairs. Hence no blood from him in the bedroom, and the trousers ending up in the kitchen by Nevill's body.

How would you explain the blood on the stairs and the drips across the kitchen floor if NB was stemming blood as you suggest? 

If NB was shot in the bedroom how would you explain the downward gsw trajectories to his face?
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[Myster]

Maybe Nevill grabbed his trousers from the bedroom floor and held them against his face to staunch the blood as he chased Bamber downstairs. Hence no blood from him in the bedroom, and the trousers ending up in the kitchen by Nevill's body.

That's a good point, which I never thought about.  But would he have had time to do so under a barrage of gunfire.

The trousers were laid out carefully on the floor of the kitchen too, so they appear to have been placed like that by someone else, whether Bamber or the TFU/police who wanted to avoid further contamination of the crime scene.

[Myster]

Blood on the stairs wasn't tested.  If not NB, s who do you think it originated from?

From June's final head shot(s) as were cartridge cases DRH13 and DRH14 on the upper-landing and mid-landing respectively.

[puglove]

How would you explain the blood on the stairs and the drips across the kitchen floor if NB was stemming blood as you suggest? 

If NB was shot in the bedroom how would you explain the downward gsw trajectories to his face?
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Nevill may have been crouching, trying to avoid being shot.

[puglove]

How would you explain the blood on the stairs and the drips across the kitchen floor if NB was stemming blood as you suggest? 

If NB was shot in the bedroom how would you explain the downward gsw trajectories to his face?
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Nevill would have been getting weaker, and the blood flow heavier, as he moved, hence the blood on kitchen floor etc.

Sorry, I can't do this and the other stuff that I should be doing ATM. Catch you later.

[Myster]

Nevill would have been getting weaker, and the blood flow heavier, as he moved, hence the blood on kitchen floor etc.

Sorry, I can't do this and the other stuff that I should be doing ATM. Catch you later.

Ditto... as a male of the species it's impossible for me to multi-task, i.e. eat and type simultaneously.

[puglove]

Nevill may have been crouching, trying to avoid being shot.

Or leaning across the bed looking at June.

Really am going now!

[Holly Goodhead]

From June's final head shot(s) as were cartridge cases DRH13 and DRH14 on the upper-landing and mid-landing respectively.

Blood tests on the two tiny stains on the landing were inconclusive in showing whose blood. Moreover how did they get there?  Bearing in mind Crispy had free run of the doc for some 4 hours.

But what about the blood stains on the stairs carpet and those across the kitchen floor?  If not NB's blood then whose?