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Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2020, 10:15:55 AM »
Of course I know that, but for some reason you took exception to my use of the word “evidence” and replaced it with “claims”.  It seems you are intent in rewriting everything I write to suit your own agenda.

Took exception ? They both mean the same, why would I take exception?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #91 on: February 10, 2020, 05:38:23 PM »
Took exception ? They both mean the same, why would I take exception?
Why did you copy my post and change the word “evidence” to “claims” then?  Kindly explain.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #92 on: February 10, 2020, 06:24:53 PM »
Why did you copy my post and change the word “evidence” to “claims” then?  Kindly explain.

Not doing this again.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2020, 06:35:54 PM »
Not doing this again.
you haven’t explained at all.  You took the trouble to change my post by one word and then claimed both words mean the same anyway, so why bother, unless you actually thought that my use of the word “evidence” was incorrect in the first place?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #96 on: February 11, 2020, 08:53:55 PM »
this kind of thing is popular with the electorate unfortunately.

What is wrong with this country ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #98 on: February 11, 2020, 09:09:52 PM »
What is wrong with this country ?
We’ve always been conservative with a small c, that’s why real socialism will never float.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #99 on: February 11, 2020, 11:01:09 PM »
We’ve always been conservative with a small c, that’s why real socialism will never float.

Yes, there is and has always been something of the masochist in the souls of the British. They’ve been raised to not hope for any better than fate has bequeathed them.....and that’s exactly what they’ve always settled for.....better the devil and all that !
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #100 on: February 12, 2020, 07:10:13 AM »
Yes, there is and has always been something of the masochist in the souls of the British. They’ve been raised to not hope for any better than fate has bequeathed them.....and that’s exactly what they’ve always settled for.....better the devil and all that !
I really don’t think it’s that, I think they realise that socialism is a fairy tale that doesn’t work.  They also have a keenly developed sense of natinal pride, justice,  right and wrong and retribution which is why deporting criminals and terrorists is always going to sit well with the majority.  Give em half a chance and they’d be hanging remainers from lamposts too!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #101 on: February 12, 2020, 01:00:32 PM »
I really don’t think it’s that, I think they realise that socialism is a fairy tale that doesn’t work.  They also have a keenly developed sense of natinal pride, justice,  right and wrong and retribution which is why deporting criminals and terrorists is always going to sit well with the majority.  Give em half a chance and they’d be hanging remainers from lamposts too!

The Labour Party was offering democratic socialism, a system that is embraced by many other countries including Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand....countries who also believe in justice, the rule of law etc etc etc. This myth that they were offering communism, or something close to it, red in tooth and claw, is merely a myth peddled by the print media to people who don’t understand the difference.

I noticed you didn’t include tolerance in your list of British qualities....no wonder when we see the rise of racist attacks towards Chinese people simply because of the coronavirus and also the rise of attacks on Eastern European’s since the 2016 referendum.

As to deporting criminals...like the British nationals deported just yesterday ? BTW where did it say in Labour’s manifesto that they would not extradite terrorists to their countries of origin?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #102 on: February 12, 2020, 08:51:34 PM »
The Labour Party was offering democratic socialism, a system that is embraced by many other countries including Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Great Britain, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand....countries who also believe in justice, the rule of law etc etc etc. This myth that they were offering communism, or something close to it, red in tooth and claw, is merely a myth peddled by the print media to people who don’t understand the difference.

I noticed you didn’t include tolerance in your list of British qualities....no wonder when we see the rise of racist attacks towards Chinese people simply because of the coronavirus and also the rise of attacks on Eastern European’s since the 2016 referendum.

As to deporting criminals...like the British nationals deported just yesterday ? BTW where did it say in Labour’s manifesto that they would not extradite terrorists to their countries of origin?
I think when you cosy up to known terrorist organisations and brandish Mao’s Little Red Book in Parliament and have a history of supporting republicanism I think you can’t really blame people for having supicions about the brand of socialism on offer.  It’s never worked in this country before why would Corbyn’s brand have been any better?  I think the British are pretty tolerant actually, especially when compared to many of the socialist countries on your list, they’re just not very tolerant of criminals especially ones that are perceived to have been treated leniently by the justice system.
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"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #103 on: February 12, 2020, 10:54:28 PM »
I think when you cosy up to known terrorist organisations and brandish Mao’s Little Red Book in Parliament and have a history of republicanism I think you can’t really blame people for having supicions about the brand of socialism on offer.  It’s never worked in this country before why would Corbyn’s brand have been any better?  I think the British are pretty tolerant actually, especially when compared to many of the socialist countries on your list, they’re just not very tolerant of criminals especially ones that are perceived to have been treated leniently by the justice system.

I’d be interested to know what in Labour’s manifesto you don’t think the public would be interested in ? Re-nationalisation of the railways ? The new Green Deal ? The scrapping of zero hours contracts or the despised UC ? Your thoughts ?

Whether socialist or capitalism I can’t think of one country whose people are tolerant of criminals being treated leniently by their justice system. Care to expand ?

As to Britain being a tolerant country https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/editorials/the-uk-has-a-long-way-to-go-before-becoming-a-tolerant-multicultural-society-a7196021.html
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....
« Reply #104 on: February 12, 2020, 10:59:31 PM »
Proof that Britain is one of the least racist countries in Europe
https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/user/jaxt/blogposts/piblogpost005.html
Look at little ol’ Portugal though!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".