Tannerman & the blanket

[Mr Gray]

That's not what you said though, you said 'no evidence', so I win.

 

So when you say there's no evidence of abduction.. There is... So you lose... When you say there's no evidence Maddie is still alive.. There is.. So you lose... That's 2-1 to me

[Wonderfulspam]

So when you say there's no evidence of abduction.. There is... So you lose... When you say there's no evidence Maddie is still alive.. There is.. So you lose... That's 2-1 to me

There's no real evidence of abduction & there's no real evidence Maddie is alive though.

[Mr Gray]

There's no real evidence of abduction & there's no real evidence Maddie is alive though.

But that's not what you normally say is it

[Brietta]

4078    “How well, I know you say you’ve been away with them all before and it was the first time you’ve been away with Kate and Gerry, how well did the group of you know each other would you say? And were you very comfortable with each other?”
Reply    “Yeah very, very comfortable. I say Russell err had lived, well he was a student with both Matt and Dave and err and then with Dave and Fiona when they were living together, so, and I mean I’ve known Russell for twelve, I think it’s twelve years now so you know sort of when Russell was living with David and Fiona I was obviously there a lot as well so yes we know those, we’ve known them very well. Obviously we know Rachael as well, Matt’s partner, but again, as I say we’ve been on holiday, we socialise a lot so yeah we’re very good friends. Kate and Gerry again we’d socialise with them, I didn’t know them as well as the others but I mean it was a very comfortable group, so.”

I don't know why the myth is being perpetuated about how well Jane knew Kate and Gerry ... perhaps it is because it is because no-one bothers to read very recent posts proving very clearly that Jane did not know them very well, and in her own words.


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I am afraid you have chosen part of a very long statement to distort the truth.

Disingenuous at the least, I think and perpetuating an inaccuracy which is unacceptable. 
Allow me to substantiate what I said in my post "I don't think Jane knew Gerry particularly well and she didn't know Jes at all." with reference to the truthful information given by Jane from the cite you provided but which you have ignored and omitted to post.


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“Yeah err well we’re very good friends with David and Fiona, and Matt and Rachael, err and it was really down to Fiona that decided that, first of all decided to go on holiday. We’d been on holiday with those two couples before and we’d just moved down to Exeter so we foresaw it as a good chance to keep in touch with friends, friends in Leicester really. Err so David and Fiona came up with the idea of going to Portugal on a Mark Warner holiday

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Reply    “Err but they’d been on holiday with David and Fiona before and so, and they’ve got children the same age as well, you know obviously Madeleine’s the same age as Ella, so a bit of a nice group.”
4078    “So you knew them all but you hadn’t all been on holiday as a group before?”
Reply    “No, we’ve been with Matt and Rachael and David and Fiona. And David and Fiona had been with Kate and Gerry but we hadn’t been, not the eight, or the nine of us including Fi’s mum, we hadn’t been on holiday before.”

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4078    “How well, I know you say you’ve been away with them all before and it was the first time you’ve been away with Kate and Gerry, how well did the group of you know each other would you say? And were you very comfortable with each other?”
Reply    “Yeah very, very comfortable. I say Russell err had lived, well he was a student with both Matt and Dave and err and then with Dave and Fiona when they were living together, so, and I mean I’ve known Russell for twelve, I think it’s twelve years now so you know sort of when Russell was living with David and Fiona I was obviously there a lot as well so yes we know those, we’ve known them very well. Obviously we know Rachael as well, Matt’s partner, but again, as I say we’ve been on holiday, we socialise a lot so yeah we’re very good friends. Kate and Gerry again we’d socialise with them, I didn’t know them as well as the others but I mean it was a very comfortable group, so.”

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4078    “Okay so how long have you known the MCCANN family?”
Reply    “I think, I’ve been trying to work out the first time I actually did first meet them but it was around about the time that Ella and Madeleine were born because Russell was working with Gerry at the Royal and I can remember, I honestly can’t remember the first time I actually met them exactly but it was around that time and we met them, I think it was at Dave and Fi’s house, because Fi knew Kate well at that point …

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4078    “And how often would the group of you get together roughly?”
Reply    “Err, well as I say with Kate and Gerry we probably saw them two or three times a year but Dave and Fi we probably saw every week, if not more often because we just lived down the road, and Matt and Rachael they moved away, they were in London. Well they were in Leicester for a while and then they moved to London so again, less, less often.”

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4078    “Okay. Right, do you feel there’s anything more to ask about the relationship between the group that we haven’t already covered?”
Reply    “Err, no I think just the thing I’d like is the fact I think for something to come on to later, is probably with Kate and Gerry I didn’t know them as well as I knew the rest of the group and I just would like yeah, the rest I’d see a lot whereas Kate and Gerry were more, we’d see them every now and again.”
4078    “Yeah.”
Reply    “So, but I would like to stress that because I think that’s very relevant when it comes to things later on really.”
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11225.msg574475#msg574475

[The General]

I don't know why the myth is being perpetuated about how well Jane knew Kate and Gerry ... perhaps it is because it is because no-one bothers to read very recent posts proving very clearly that Jane did not know them very well, and in her own words.


Snip
I am afraid you have chosen part of a very long statement to distort the truth.

Disingenuous at the least, I think and perpetuating an inaccuracy which is unacceptable. 
Allow me to substantiate what I said in my post "I don't think Jane knew Gerry particularly well and she didn't know Jes at all." with reference to the truthful information given by Jane from the cite you provided but which you have ignored and omitted to post.


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“Yeah err well we’re very good friends with David and Fiona, and Matt and Rachael, err and it was really down to Fiona that decided that, first of all decided to go on holiday. We’d been on holiday with those two couples before and we’d just moved down to Exeter so we foresaw it as a good chance to keep in touch with friends, friends in Leicester really. Err so David and Fiona came up with the idea of going to Portugal on a Mark Warner holiday

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Reply    “Err but they’d been on holiday with David and Fiona before and so, and they’ve got children the same age as well, you know obviously Madeleine’s the same age as Ella, so a bit of a nice group.”
4078    “So you knew them all but you hadn’t all been on holiday as a group before?”
Reply    “No, we’ve been with Matt and Rachael and David and Fiona. And David and Fiona had been with Kate and Gerry but we hadn’t been, not the eight, or the nine of us including Fi’s mum, we hadn’t been on holiday before.”

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4078    “How well, I know you say you’ve been away with them all before and it was the first time you’ve been away with Kate and Gerry, how well did the group of you know each other would you say? And were you very comfortable with each other?”
Reply    “Yeah very, very comfortable. I say Russell err had lived, well he was a student with both Matt and Dave and err and then with Dave and Fiona when they were living together, so, and I mean I’ve known Russell for twelve, I think it’s twelve years now so you know sort of when Russell was living with David and Fiona I was obviously there a lot as well so yes we know those, we’ve known them very well. Obviously we know Rachael as well, Matt’s partner, but again, as I say we’ve been on holiday, we socialise a lot so yeah we’re very good friends. Kate and Gerry again we’d socialise with them, I didn’t know them as well as the others but I mean it was a very comfortable group, so.”

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4078    “Okay so how long have you known the MCCANN family?”
Reply    “I think, I’ve been trying to work out the first time I actually did first meet them but it was around about the time that Ella and Madeleine were born because Russell was working with Gerry at the Royal and I can remember, I honestly can’t remember the first time I actually met them exactly but it was around that time and we met them, I think it was at Dave and Fi’s house, because Fi knew Kate well at that point …

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4078    “And how often would the group of you get together roughly?”
Reply    “Err, well as I say with Kate and Gerry we probably saw them two or three times a year but Dave and Fi we probably saw every week, if not more often because we just lived down the road, and Matt and Rachael they moved away, they were in London. Well they were in Leicester for a while and then they moved to London so again, less, less often.”

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4078    “Okay. Right, do you feel there’s anything more to ask about the relationship between the group that we haven’t already covered?”
Reply    “Err, no I think just the thing I’d like is the fact I think for something to come on to later, is probably with Kate and Gerry I didn’t know them as well as I knew the rest of the group and I just would like yeah, the rest I’d see a lot whereas Kate and Gerry were more, we’d see them every now and again.”
4078    “Yeah.”
Reply    “So, but I would like to stress that because I think that’s very relevant when it comes to things later on really.”
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11225.msg574475#msg574475

TL;DR

[G-Unit]

As there's no evidence against the mccanns sceptis need to make some up

Who is talking about the McCanns? I've been quoting Jane Tanner's contribution to the typed timeline which was submitted into evidence by one of the UK FLO's. It does contradict Gerry McCann's evidence, but no-one believes he was on the east side of the road anyway, because two other witnesses say he wasn't.

[Mr Gray]

Who is talking about the McCanns? I've been quoting Jane Tanner's contribution to the typed timeline which was submitted into evidence by one of the UK FLO's. It does contradict Gerry McCann's evidence, but no-one believes he was on the east side of the road anyway, because two other witnesses say he wasn't.

who's talking about the mccanns ...you are...ypuve just mentiones him in your post. The fact is theres no rael evidence against the mccanns so you need to make some up

[G-Unit]

who's talking about the mccanns ...you are...ypuve just mentiones him in your post. The fact is theres no rael evidence against the mccanns so you need to make some up

I haven't made anything up, just quoted from the evidence in the PJ files.

[Mr Gray]

I haven't made anything up, just quoted from the evidence in the PJ files.

as spam pointed out today ...evidence may well be worthless

[sadie]

TL;DR

What a shame that you couldn't be bothered to read it. 

As usual Briettas hard work comes up with the goods and clearly demonstrates that Jane didn't know The  Mccanns as well as the rest of the group did

[The General]

What a shame that you couldn't be bothered to read it. 

As usual Briettas hard work comes up with the goods and clearly demonstrates that Jane didn't know The  Mccanns as well as the rest of the group did

Let's assume that's correct. What are we trying to establish, that Jane daren't interrupt when the men talking? Is that it?
So this great wall of text, 'snippety snips', quotes, research and subsequent interminable posts just to establish that Jane was slightly reticent, therefore, may well have tip toed past the two guys talking (somewhere along the perimeter of 5a) unobserved, without so much as a by your leave.
The only point that sticks out is that, despite this apparent reluctance to interrupt, given that the two men were facing eachother, it was remarkable that Jane did manage to pass unnoticed. But I'll grant that she was there - I believe her, because otherwise how could she possibly be able to recount that the two guys were stood in conversation? She wouldn't know.

Almost as much text there........deffo not worth reading.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Let's assume that's correct. What are we trying to establish, that Jane daren't interrupt when the men talking? Is that it?
So this great wall of text, 'snippety snips', quotes, research and subsequent interminable posts just to establish that Jane was slightly reticent, therefore, may well have tip toed past the two guys talking (somewhere along the perimeter of 5a) unobserved, without so much as a by your leave.
The only point that sticks out is that, despite this apparent reluctance to interrupt, given that the two men were facing eachother, it was remarkable that Jane did manage to pass unnoticed. But I'll grant that she was there - I believe her, because otherwise how could she possibly be able to recount that the two guys were stood in conversation? She wouldn't know.

Almost as much text there........deffo not worth reading.

”reticent”, “daren’t interrupt”, “tip-Toed” - all your words, no one else has suggested this.  Perhaps she simply had nothing pressing to say to either man, couldn’t be arsed to interrupt, had other things on her mind. 

[The General]

”reticent”, “daren’t interrupt”, “tip-Toed” - all your words, no one else has suggested this.  Perhaps she simply had nothing pressing to say to either man, couldn’t be arsed to interrupt, had other things on her mind.

Yeh, maybe. Thanks for reading.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Yeh, maybe. Thanks for reading.

you’re welcome, thanks for managing to reply without putting me down.

[Eleanor]

I have long been led to believe, since September 2007, that The Pink Blanket was given to The Portuguese Sniffer Dogs.
Pink Blanket, Pink Towel, or whatever, and then lost by The PJ.