The phone call

[APRIL]

I agree, it probably is rare that they go terribly wrong. My point is that looking at what people did doesn't explain why they did it. On the face of it spending money on your children seems like a caring, loving, helpful act, but that might not be what it really was. Even those involved might not have realised if their actions were manipulative rather than helpful.

Anyway, back on topic. I can still see nothing which proves that Nevill Bamber didn't phone his son. The evidence offered in court certainly didn't prove it.

Then presumably you don't find it strange that, despite telling police, when he eventually got round to calling them, that his father had "sounded terrified", and later, telling Colin that his father may have already been wounded, he delayed making his call to police for around 20 minutes, instead, phoning Julie, not so much to "hear a friendly voice" -having not yet heard any!- as he claimed, but to give her an update on how things were progressing?

[Holly Goodhead]

Then presumably you don't find it strange that, despite telling police, when he eventually got round to calling them, that his father had "sounded terrified", and later, telling Colin that his father may have already been wounded, he delayed making his call to police for around 20 minutes, instead, phoning Julie, not so much to "hear a friendly voice" -having not yet heard any!- as he claimed, but to give her an update on how things were progressing?

It's easy to say I would do this, that and the other when no blueprint exists.  Its why organisations spend huge resources on contingency planning.  With NB saying 'Sheila's gone crazy she's got the gun' JB did what most would probably do in that he attempted to resume the conversation with NB in an attempt to understand what action he wanted JB to take.

[APRIL]

It's easy to say I would do this, that and the other when no blueprint exists.  Its why organisations spend huge resources on contingency planning.  With NB saying 'Sheila's gone crazy she's got the gun' JB did what most would probably do in that he attempted to resume the conversation with NB in an attempt to understand what action he wanted JB to take.

I'd have thought,had NB known what action needed to be taken, rather than go through a questionable -in that his call may not be answered- third person, he'd have gone straight to the source of the required action. I do however concur that none of us knows what we'd do until we're in a situation which requires us to do something. Even then, our options are likely to be limited.

[Myster]

Jeremy Bamber wasn't an organisation, he was an individual who'd received an emergency call from his dad... or so he would like everybody to believe!   What most sons would have done is to get their butt over to the farm asap, not faff about phoning a girlfriend in the middle of the night asking for advice, and then fiddle about with a phone book for ten minutes instead of dialling 999.

[Holly Goodhead]

Jeremy Bamber wasn't an organisation, he was an individual who'd received an emergency call from his dad... or so he would like everybody to believe!   What most sons would have done is to get their butt over to the farm asap, not faff about phoning a girlfriend in the middle of the night asking for advice, and then fiddle about with a phone book for ten minutes instead of dialling 999.

If you created a scenario for a dozen individuals and asked them how they would respond you would probably get a dozen different responses some of which you hadn't even thought of!

If NB wanted the police involved he would have called them himself.  He didn't because as JB said he didn't like involving "organisations".  NB didn't anticipate the situation escalating and thought he could contain it in-house.

[Caroline]

I agree, it probably is rare that they go terribly wrong. My point is that looking at what people did doesn't explain why they did it. On the face of it spending money on your children seems like a caring, loving, helpful act, but that might not be what it really was. Even those involved might not have realised if their actions were manipulative rather than helpful.

Anyway, back on topic. I can still see nothing which proves that Nevill Bamber didn't phone his son. The evidence offered in court certainly didn't prove it.

The court never discussed it - this is a fairly recent claim.

[Holly Goodhead]

Sheila used to have her nails manicured in Maida Vale

Source please along with name of salon and therapist.

[Holly Goodhead]

The court never discussed it - this is a fairly recent claim.

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[Caroline]

If you created a scenario for a dozen individuals and asked them how they would respond you would probably get a dozen different responses some of which you hadn't even thought of!

If NB wanted the police involved he would have called them himself.  He didn't because as JB said he didn't like involving "organisations".  NB didn't anticipate the situation escalating and thought he could contain it in-house.

Jeremy said? Jeremy said a lot.

If you asked a dozen people, you wouldn't get a dozen different responses and I am sure you would get a significant result in favour of calling the police (using 999) and or going over there.

[Caroline]

The court never discussed it - this is a fairly recent claim.

The call from Nevill to police wasn't mentioned at trial.

[Holly Goodhead]

It looks like some people on here are indulging their favourite pastime, ie: victim blaming.  Shame on you who do this, shame on you.

No idea what you're talking about.

[Caroline]

No idea what you're talking about.

Blaming the Bambers and accusing them of economic 'abuse'.

[Myster]

If you created a scenario for a dozen individuals and asked them how they would respond you would probably get a dozen different responses some of which you hadn't even thought of!

If NB wanted the police involved he would have called them himself.  He didn't because as JB said he didn't like involving "organisations".  NB didn't anticipate the situation escalating and thought he could contain it in-house.

Baloney!!!  There are only two possibilties... ring 999 or get over to deal with situation yourself asap.

Nevill didn't call anybody, neither did he get the chance to do so.

[Holly Goodhead]

Blaming the Bambers and accusing them of economic 'abuse'.

Wrong thread then.

The Bambers should never have been approved to adopt in the first place.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Blaming the Bambers and accusing them of economic 'abuse'.

Exactly.  It seems the Bambers brought this upon themselves if the arguments on here are anything to go by.