You rely too much on “experts”, Holly
They may not be all they seem
Professor Vincent Egan isn’t a qualified Psychiatrist: he’s a Psychologist. What’s more, he was paid by the defence to do a report on Jeremy Bamber and his findings, and what’s somewhat worrying, is that he’s known in his field to regularly make reports for the DEFENCE.
But more worrying that that is, one psychologist alone cannot make a diagnosis by doing a few random questionnaires over the course of an hour or so. The actual test he used is available online, including the twin test to try to decipher if the participant is lying. I suggest you do both those tests yourself (I’ll find the link for you) and I guarantee to you that you’ll easily know which would be the most apt answer if you wanted to appear to have no psychopathy traits. Interestingly, Jeremy scored on the very low side, which is unusual for even normal people as we all have — whether we like to believe it or not — some traits to our character where we would, say, lie to save our own skin. No-one is perfect, but according to Jeremy’s test results he almost scored perfection — and Vincent Egan wasn’t suspicious of that?
Vincent Egan’s test results aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.
To diagnose psychopathy a thorough evaluation is required, including numerous tests, numerous in-depth interviews, all taken over a relatively long period of time — and more than one psychiatrist with extensive qualifications is needed to determine a positive diagnosis.
These thorough evaluations by more than one psychiatrist are not to be confused with hurried questionnaires taken for legal purposes, such as the one Jeremy Bamber paid for, as they do not meet the criteria needed to establish psychopathy.
This is just another of JB’s attempts to try and make out he’s not a psychopath when not only did two psychiatrists say he definitely was one, Jeremy himself told Julie Mugford that he knew he wasn’t normal as he didn’t have normal emotions. And Colin said he saw Jeremy studying him after the murders, and realised he was watching him so he’d know how to behave in front of people, and how to show outward signs of grief.
That’s why his behaviour was so bizarre, one minute he was crouched over pretending to collapse with grief, then minutes later he was grinning and tucking into bacon sandwiches, saying he was “starving”, talking about buying a Porsche, and drinking Champagne like he was celebrating at a wedding. EVERYONE, police included, were stunned by his behaviour. I myself remember seeing him on the news at the funeral and immediately felt he was overacting — it was so easy to see.
You come across as an intelligent woman, Holly, so I can’t understand why you can’t see what everyone else can see...
Spy, when you hold off on the emotion (and the rudeness which tends to emanate from it!!!) your posts make for interesting -and sometimes, excellent- reading.
I entirely concur with your evaluation re psychologists/psychiatrists. A psychologist has no more claim to being a psychiatrist than a lowly counselor can claim to be a psychologist, but they all have footholds in each other's camps, and they each have their place in the vast area of mental health.
Of interest is your comment about Holly's (over?) reliance on experts. Naturally, only those who support Jeremy's innocence. Other experts exist. My late partner was an expert witness. No one who used his services, ever lost their case. As his son said, of him, at his memorial celebration, "He was always right"............. Was he?
I'm fascinated by why such store is set by Jeremy's psychopathy -or otherwise!!- and and why Holly, for whom I have the greatest respect, refuses to contemplate any opinion which doesn't have a name or reference, and any verdict than Prof Egan's. It may simply be a way of devaluing/eradicating everything other than that which is in Jeremy's favour? I can fully see why it would be of importance, pre-trial, to assess his mental stability, but post trial, other than the routine assessments, which all prisoners are given, why would psychopathy matter, one way or the other, and why would it be necessary to go to the added expense of testing for it?
