The phone call

[mrswah]

Made your mind up about Tabac yet? 

Have nothing new to say !!!

[Caroline]

Have nothing new to say !!!

Just kidding!! 

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Because they were written by two different people but ask yourself why in the very beginning off this case, both West and Bonnett would lie about the phone call because they would BOTH have to be complicit in this lie?

So what you’re suggesting is, besides both Nevill & Jeremy phong the local PS 20 miles away after looking through the thick telephone directory instead of calling 999....

Neither of them knew Sheila’s true age, either?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Here's the article by Bob Woffinden re the phones.  By his own admission the farm only had one line.  So if someone wanted to prevent occupants using upstairs phones all someone needed to do was take a downstairs phone off the hook thus disabling all other phones from dialling out. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1387438/I-wrong-Jeremy-Bamber-says-crime-writer.html

But when Jeremy Bamber planned to get in through the window he couldn’t chance the possibility that he’d be heard and Nevill would’ve immediately dialled 999 from his bedroom...

[Inspector Gadget]

How can they do a shooting reconstruction when they’re not certain who Jeremy Bamber shot and killed first, and 34 years have passed?

It isn’t like anyone can come forward is it?

All you’re trying to do is carry out Jeremy Bamber’s instructions, which are “keep me in the news”

Well, except for WhiteHouseFarm being shown on TV, Jeremy Bamber had almost been forgotten, and in a couple of weeks he’ll once again be soggy wet fish & chip paper....

Even when he was convicted for murdering his family and the Chamber if Hirrirs were asked if they’d be putting him in there, they replied “too easily forgotten”

And they were correct

No-one’s given him a thought for decades...except strange old maids
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Bet he got a nice Valentines card from somebody 😬

[Myster]

You mean 'Charlie'? Yes, I saw his reconstruction of how Sheila supposedly shot herself, he lay on the floor with a rifle (no silencer) under his chin. I don't think it took much thought to reconstruct that.

CAL is a crime writer and you have dismissed quite a lot of what she had to say.

Where Nevill was makes no odds. The defence had the opportunity to argue that Nevill could have received a call prior to being shot, they chose not to.

Not even an Anschutz 525, not even the correct long-barrelled version of an Anschutz 525, not even accurate positioning of the rifle he used, not even a fitted Parker-Hale moderator, and not even the merest sign of a schizophrenic episode or the drowsiness caused by administration of Haloperidol.  So much for American armchair-detective crime scene reconstructions!

https://www.dropbox.com/home/WHF?preview=gun_yoga.mp4

Mike T's big toe demo has more credibility...

[APRIL]

Not even an Anschutz 525, not even the correct long-barrelled version of an Anschutz 525, not even accurate positioning of the rifle he used, not even a fitted Parker-Hale moderator, and not even the merest sign of a schizophrenic episode or the drowsiness caused by administration of Haloperidol.  So much for American armchair-detective crime scene reconstructions!

https://www.dropbox.com/home/WHF?preview=gun_yoga.mp4

Mike T's big toe demo has more credibility...

That's without taking into consideration that the AACD was hell-bent on proving it woz Sheila wot dun it, NOT as Sheila was alleged to have been, hell-bent on taking her own life and in an emotional state commensurate with it..............which is apart from her hand/eye coordination problems probably exacerbated by Haloperidol.

[Holly Goodhead]

Apologies

I’d hate to break rules...

Just as well Jeremy Bamber himself can’t post on here isn’t it?

He burgled and stole money from his father’s caravan site

He grew cannabis or marijuana on his father’s farm

He burgled a jewellery shop in New Zealand

And that’s just a small selection of the disgraceful crimes we know about...EXCEPT...he then plotted and planned and then carried out the murders of his dad, mum, sister and two six-year-old nephews...

I suppose that would mean a ban?

You can say what you wish about those who don't post here so long as it doesn't break forum rules.

In terms of those who post here please refrain from making any comments whatsoever of a personal nature.

And please try to remain on thread topic.  The above is completely off-topic.

If you wish to continue posting here I suggest you take note of the above.  Thanks.

[G-Unit]

So what you’re suggesting is, besides both Nevill & Jeremy phong the local PS 20 miles away after looking through the thick telephone directory instead of calling 999....

Neither of them knew Sheila’s true age, either?

There is no evidence as far as I know that the Bamber men had to look through a telephone directory to find the telephone number of the police.

Not to be sexist, but women are more likely to keep track of birthdays and ages in my experience.

[Myster]

There is no evidence as far as I know that the Bamber men had to look through a telephone directory to find the telephone number of the police.

Not to be sexist, but women are more likely to keep track of birthdays and ages in my experience.

Oh yes there is, Jeremy Bamber's interview transcript 8th. Sept. 1985...

[Caroline]

Not even an Anschutz 525, not even the correct long-barrelled version of an Anschutz 525, not even accurate positioning of the rifle he used, not even a fitted Parker-Hale moderator, and not even the merest sign of a schizophrenic episode or the drowsiness caused by administration of Haloperidol.  So much for American armchair-detective crime scene reconstructions!

https://www.dropbox.com/home/WHF?preview=gun_yoga.mp4

Mike T's big toe demo has more credibility...

I was flabbergasted when I saw the so called reconstruction on IA - gave up posting there long ago - just a lot of people playing forensic detective and being totally convinced that their findings proved various aspects of the case.

[G-Unit]

Oh yes there is, Jeremy Bamber's interview transcript 8th. Sept. 1985...

Thank you Myster.

[Holly Goodhead]

Not even an Anschutz 525, not even the correct long-barrelled version of an Anschutz 525, not even accurate positioning of the rifle he used, not even a fitted Parker-Hale moderator, and not even the merest sign of a schizophrenic episode or the drowsiness caused by administration of Haloperidol.  So much for American armchair-detective crime scene reconstructions!

https://www.dropbox.com/home/WHF?preview=gun_yoga.mp4

Mike T's big toe demo has more credibility...

I think CW was just trying to illustrate approx how he thought SC shot herself.  At the end of the day he is merely a poster on an internet forum not an expert witness providing testimony at trial.  The experiments the FSS undertook using various women of different heights are no more or less scientific than CW's experiment given no measurements of SC's arm span were used and yet this played a part at trial!

Americans have a very different view of this case based on their wide ownership of firearms.

[Holly Goodhead]

I was flabbergasted when I saw the so called reconstruction on IA - gave up posting there long ago - just a lot of people playing forensic detective and being totally convinced that their findings proved various aspects of the case.

IA is US domained and I think Americans in general have a very different view on this case based on wide ownership of firearms. 
 

[Holly Goodhead]

But when Jeremy Bamber planned to get in through the window he couldn’t chance the possibility that he’d be heard and Nevill would’ve immediately dialled 999 from his bedroom...

The ivory phone was seen in the kitchen on 5th Aug when the tel eng collected the cordless phone damaged in a recent storm.

If JB removed the ivory phone he could not be sure the Bambers would not put it back or plug in one of the other phones. 

Actually thinking about it were those old rotary phones capable of being moved around?  I thought they were wired in and fixed?