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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #270 on: February 20, 2020, 08:42:31 PM »
You not seriously suggesting this is like for like are you? The woman is clearly proficient with guns and at what point in the video does the woman suffer a psychotic attack?  %56&

SC was NOT familiar with the .22 rifle. It had been fairly recently bought and the period was during her illness. Bamber told me me had never shown her own to use it and there is no reason why she would have needed to. She may have grown up in a household that had guns but she went off to private school around 8 years of age and I am sure no one forced a gun in her hand at that age. There is no evidence that Sheila knew how to load and fire the rifle - in fact there is much to show the opposite.

The woman in the vid shows how simple it is to load a mag and  prepare the rifle for firing.  In terms of her ability to hit targets at range this clearly requires some experience but all victims at WHF sustained gunshot wounds when the rifle was a couple of feet away from the body.  How could anyone miss?  And many shots were fired when victims were immobile.

SC went to boarding school age 10 yoa and obviously spent school hols at WHF.  Its no different to you and I observing our parents doing all sorts of things that you pick up without someone having to sit you down and talk you through it.
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Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #271 on: February 20, 2020, 08:43:32 PM »
The ivory phone was seen in the kitchen on 5th Aug when the tel eng collected the cordless phone damaged in a recent storm.

If JB removed the ivory phone he could not be sure the Bambers would not put it back or plug in one of the other phones. 

Actually thinking about it were those old rotary phones capable of being moved around?  I thought they were wired in and fixed?


Jeremy had a habit of snooping on the quiet, so would have checked thta night that no phone was in the master bedroom

Besides, what you’re forgetting is that none of the others can speak — Jeremy shot them all dead

It’s more than likely after the broken kitchen phone was taken away for repairs (which was possibly broken by JB...how often do walkabouts break?!) JB put the phone into the kitchen on the excuse he needed to make some calls

IF that phone was fixed in the kitchen socket, which means all the evidence that it was usually in the bedroom is false, then that means it was even easier for JB to take it it off the hook in case, by chance, Nevill had plugged another phone into the bedroom while the mysteriously “broken” walkabout had been sent for repairs just days before

Jeremy knew a heck of a LOT about the current phone situation in the farmhouse considering he no longer lived there!

But as you rightly say, Holly, when Jeremy crept in through the window he had to take the receiver off the hook IN CASE Nevill, by chance, had indeed plugged another one in the bedroom. That makes sense!
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #272 on: February 20, 2020, 08:48:46 PM »

Jeremy had a habit of snooping on the quiet, so would have checked thta night that no phone was in the master bedroom

Besides, what you’re forgetting is that none of the others can speak — Jeremy shot them all dead

It’s more than likely after the broken kitchen phone was taken away for repairs (which was possibly broken by JB...how often do walkabouts break?!) JB put the phone into the kitchen on the excuse he needed to make some calls

IF that phone was fixed in the kitchen socket, which means all the evidence that it was usually in the bedroom is false, then that means it was even easier for JB to take it it off the hook in case, by chance, Nevill had plugged another phone into the bedroom while the mysteriously “broken” walkabout had been sent for repairs just days before

Jeremy knew a heck of a LOT about the current phone situation in the farmhouse considering he no longer lived there!

But as you rightly say, Holly, when Jeremy crept in through the window he had to take the receiver off the hook IN CASE Nevill, by chance, had indeed plugged another one in the bedroom. That makes sense!

How do you know JB snooped on the quiet?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #273 on: February 20, 2020, 08:53:52 PM »
What, and left his wife June to be shit dead?????!!!!

No.  The physical and forensic evidence shows the perp first shot June when her head was on the pillow.  She then sustained further gunshot wounds. NB then appeared on the landing and sustained his facial shots there. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #274 on: February 20, 2020, 08:56:44 PM »
Afaik SC never discussed with her psychiatrist any ill-feeling between herself and JB.  In fact Afaik she didn't mention him at all.  Her morbid thoughts were restricted to June and the twins and I think her friend Freddie too.

Others will say JB and SC didn't get on but I don't see any evidence for this.  CC invited JB to his party on the Sat before the murders and JB drove SC home afterwards.  Why would all this happen if the pair didn't get on?

As Prince Harry recently said 'as brothers you have good days and bad days'.




No-one said Colin & Jeremy didn’t get on — prior to Colin discovering Jeremy had shot dead his sons and Sheila!

Colin was kind to Jeremy; wouldn't  he be? Possibly because Colin still held a candle for Sheila; she was his sons mother; and so he kept things cordial

But Colin wasn’t Jeremy’s brother; he wasn’t even his brother-in-law any longer, so why you’re comparing the convicted mass murderer, Jeremy Bamber to Prince William & Harry is really weird in my opinion...they’ve not shot dead one another’s children & ex.

Neither have they tried to sell nude photos of the other’s ex partners

I can’t see the connection you’re trying to make?
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #275 on: February 20, 2020, 08:58:46 PM »
How do you know JB snooped on the quiet?

He’s admitted it in his official police statements

I can post them up for you if you’d like

There seems to be lots you don’t know...please don’t feel shy in asking for information; I’ll happily post it in here for you
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #276 on: February 20, 2020, 09:00:29 PM »
No.  The physical and forensic evidence shows the perp first shot June when her head was on the pillow.  She then sustained further gunshot wounds. NB then appeared on the landing and sustained his facial shots there.

And June wasn’t fatally injured at that time...Jeremy shot her dead between the eyes after she got up and ran
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Offline Geordie

Re: The phone call
« Reply #277 on: February 20, 2020, 09:24:15 PM »

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #278 on: February 20, 2020, 09:42:19 PM »
I'm not suggesting they went downstairs together. But given the physical evidence supports NB in the kitchen on the phone to JB with SC going upstairs and opening fire on June in bed and NB hearing gunshots and dropping the phone to run upstairs and then sustaining his gunshot wounds on the landing stairs this is all that matters. 

If the rifle was left out as JB claimed NB may well have moved it and/or emptied the mag but there was nothing to prevent SC seeking out the rifle given they were not locked away.

The pair may have been downstairs for some time talking about the twin's future.  It is obvious SC was not well enough to look after them.

It doesn't.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #279 on: February 21, 2020, 10:10:27 AM »

No-one said Colin & Jeremy didn’t get on — prior to Colin discovering Jeremy had shot dead his sons and Sheila!

Colin was kind to Jeremy; wouldn't  he be? Possibly because Colin still held a candle for Sheila; she was his sons mother; and so he kept things cordial

But Colin wasn’t Jeremy’s brother; he wasn’t even his brother-in-law any longer, so why you’re comparing the convicted mass murderer, Jeremy Bamber to Prince William & Harry is really weird in my opinion...they’ve not shot dead one another’s children & ex.

Neither have they tried to sell nude photos of the other’s ex partners

I can’t see the connection you’re trying to make?

Colin Caffell cheated on Sheila when she was pregnant, so I don't think he was holding a candle for her at all. It was the other way round in my opinion.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #280 on: February 21, 2020, 11:50:00 AM »
The defence had the opportunity to argue that Neville made the call before being shot - they didn't bother,

Are defence lawyers always right?
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Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #281 on: February 21, 2020, 12:34:09 PM »
Colin Caffell cheated on Sheila when she was pregnant, so I don't think he was holding a candle for her at all. It was the other way round in my opinion.


Mmm. Whilst I'm not condoning what he did, he wasn't the first, and he certainly won't be the last, to 'play away' during a wife's pregnancy. Bottom line was that it was only sex, and as such, just another appetite to feed. Once sated, forgotten. We must also remember that his and Sheila's probably wasn't a mutual love match. Once the pregnancy was lost, which forced their marriage, it may have been that he was looking for a way out, but was stopped by Sheila, desperate to be a mother, becoming pregnant with the twins and following a difficult pregnancy giving birth to boys he adored. As the saying goes, "Man cannot live on bread alone".

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Re: The phone call
« Reply #282 on: February 21, 2020, 12:40:09 PM »
Are defence lawyers always right?

I doubt it!  Is anyone always right?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #283 on: February 21, 2020, 12:56:52 PM »
Are defence lawyers always right?

Certainly not!  There can be no doubt a poor defence featured in this case at trial and 2002 appeal hearing.  The 1989 appeal hearing was handled by the same trial lawyers. Having read William Clegg QC's autobiography of sorts 'Under The Wig' I hope he will be in a position to take JB's third appeal. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #284 on: February 21, 2020, 01:00:18 PM »
I doubt it!  Is anyone always right?

No but the difference between QC's and lesser mortals is that the latter are held to account!
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?