The phone call

[Holly Goodhead]

Here's the casing layout diagram:

[adam]

Why would JB spend 8 cartridges on the twins before even attempting to deal with his greatest adversary?

NB sustained two gsw's to his front and two to his rear upstairs.  At what point did NB turn and where was JB?

What was SC doing when June was clearly staggering around the bed from one side to the other and back again?  Why would SC tend to her mother, who by most accounts she wasn't fond of, before checking on the twins who according to you were already dead?

For a scenario to stand up to scrutiny it needs to match the physical evidence at soc by way of blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

Sheila was sleeping in another room. Behind walls, closed doors and across a corridor. A silencer was used and June was too injured to make any noise. The twins were shot while they slept. 

[adam]

Does CAL's book say where Crispy used to sleep?

I know he was found under the main bedrooms bed. However dogs are often put into seperate rooms at night. WHF was a big house.

Crispy was not a guard dog but people say he would have heard Bamber enter and alerted the house. If he slept in the upstairs main bedroom woth Nevill & June, behind a closed door, it is doubtful he would have woken.

[APRIL]

No point in her asking Colin to intervene with her parents then, if they were in the dark about her condition and treatment.

That's totally irrelevant. You still haven't told us from where you gained the information that she did.

[G-Unit]

Does CAL's book say where Crispy used to sleep?

I know he was found under the main bedrooms bed. However dogs are often put into seperate rooms at night. WHF was a big house.

Crispy was not a guard dog but people say he would have heard Bamber enter and alerted the house. If he slept in the upstairs main bedroom woth Nevill & June, behind a closed door, it is doubtful he would have woken.

Crispy slept in the kitchen in his basket next to the Aga. [CAL book page 158]

[G-Unit]

That's totally irrelevant. You still haven't told us from where you gained the information that she did.

Colin Caffell's book. Sheila had asked him to speak to them when he dropped her and the boys off, but he didn't. He did speak to them about the boys who had asked him to tell their grandmother they didn't want to be made to kneel and pray all the time. Daniel had decided he was vegetarian and was afraid of June shouting at him if he didn't eat his meat also.

According to Colin Sheila had told her parents she wasn't happy with her treatment, but got the 'we know best' treatment. She was unhappy with her psychiatrist but her parents 'had absolute faith' in him. Colin told her to take charge and not let herself be treated like a child. He told her she needed to stand up to them.

[APRIL]

Colin Caffell's book. Sheila had asked him to speak to them when he dropped her and the boys off, but he didn't. He did speak to them about the boys who had asked him to tell their grandmother they didn't want to be made to kneel and pray all the time. Daniel had decided he was vegetarian and was afraid of June shouting at him if he didn't eat his meat also.

According to Colin Sheila had told her parents she wasn't happy with her treatment, but got the 'we know best' treatment. She was unhappy with her psychiatrist but her parents 'had absolute faith' in him. Colin told her to take charge and not let herself be treated like a child. He told her she needed to stand up to them.

Colin was keen for her to try an 'alternative therapy' -he seemed to think the Bambers wouldn't approve- but by the time Sheila arrived at WHF her meds had already been adjusted, Sheila herself having instigated it. Colin made his feelings clear in a letter he wrote, but never delivered, to Nevill. He left WHF with the letter still in his pocket, which he regretted later.

[G-Unit]

Colin was keen for her to try an 'alternative therapy' -he seemed to think the Bambers wouldn't approve- but by the time Sheila arrived at WHF her meds had already been adjusted, Sheila herself having instigated it. Colin made his feelings clear in a letter he wrote, but never delivered, to Nevill. He left WHF with the letter still in his pocket, which he regretted later.

It was the night before they went to WHF when Sheila asked Colin to speak to her parents.

[Angelo222]

Colin Caffell's book. Sheila had asked him to speak to them when he dropped her and the boys off, but he didn't. He did speak to them about the boys who had asked him to tell their grandmother they didn't want to be made to kneel and pray all the time. Daniel had decided he was vegetarian and was afraid of June shouting at him if he didn't eat his meat also.

According to Colin Sheila had told her parents she wasn't happy with her treatment, but got the 'we know best' treatment. She was unhappy with her psychiatrist but her parents 'had absolute faith' in him. Colin told her to take charge and not let herself be treated like a child. He told her she needed to stand up to them.

Doesn't sound at all like the sort of girl who could kill her parents when she couldn't even talk to them without feeling fear.

[G-Unit]

Doesn't sound at all like the sort of girl who could kill her parents when she couldn't even talk to them without feeling fear.

On the other hand the suggestion that she should go to Bournemouth may have been the last straw.

[Vertigo Swirl]

On the other hand the suggestion that she should go to Bournemouth may have been the last straw.

Bournemouth isn't THAT bad!!

[adam]

Crispy slept in the kitchen in his basket next to the Aga. [CAL book page 158]

Thanks. I bet Crispy got a shock when Nevill amd Jeremy entered the kitchen.

If Crispy woke when Bamber was downstairs, he would have quickly quietened down once he recognised Jeremy. If he did bark, the people upstairs sleeping behind closed doors would not hear.

[adam]

Crispy slept in the kitchen in his basket next to the Aga. [CAL book page 158]

Sounds like you have read CAL's book.

What did you think of her reconstruction of Jeremy committing the massacre?

[mrswah]

Bournemouth isn't THAT bad!!

Ha ha, was just about to say the same thing!

[G-Unit]

Sounds like you have read CAL's book.

What did you think of her reconstruction of Jeremy committing the massacre?

Do you mean Appendix 1? Isn't that a report which was produced by the police?