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Offline adam

Re: The phone call
« Reply #735 on: March 10, 2020, 09:34:30 PM »
'It wouldn't be the first time that the gun had been left in the scullery on the settle. Robert Boutflower saw it there on 18th July. Nevill picked it up and put it in the cupboard, but whether he then locked it wasn't said.'

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I did not know that. Where does it say that, CAL's book?

It is a pity Nevill did not do this when his daughter & two grand daughters were staying.


Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: The phone call
« Reply #736 on: March 10, 2020, 09:36:37 PM »
"Mrs Neva Temple, who lives next door said Sheila once woke her at 5am with hysterical screams.  'She was shouting loudly and I went to help.  She seemed very distraught."

http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/gambling-man-in-life-of-massacre-model.html?m=0
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #737 on: March 10, 2020, 10:30:58 PM »
"Mrs Neva Temple, who lives next door said Sheila once woke her at 5am with hysterical screams.  'She was shouting loudly and I went to help.  She seemed very distraught."

http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/gambling-man-in-life-of-massacre-model.html?m=0

There is always someone who wants to comment when a newspaper turns up. However, we know Sheila had schizophrenia but she was medicated at the time of the murders.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #738 on: March 10, 2020, 11:06:24 PM »
There is always someone who wants to comment when a newspaper turns up. However, we know Sheila had schizophrenia but she was medicated at the time of the murders.

To be precise, Sheila had an injection on 11th July, but the dose was reduced by 50% at her request. Her psychiatrist described it as a small dose. That was 26 days before the shootings.
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Offline Caroline

Re: The phone call
« Reply #739 on: March 11, 2020, 01:17:01 AM »
To be precise, Sheila had an injection on 11th July, but the dose was reduced by 50% at her request. Her psychiatrist described it as a small dose. That was 26 days before the shootings.

To be more precise, Sheila still had a moderate dose of Haloperidol still left in her system when she died. The drug is slow release and builds up in the system. It doesn't just wear off prior to the next dose being administered.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #740 on: March 11, 2020, 07:43:07 AM »
Pamela spoke to June at 10 pm on the night and June mentioned how worried she was about Sheila and that she was trying to persuade her to take a holiday at a home in Bournemouth. Pamela later elaborated saying it was  a 'nursing home' and a 'Christian community'. Whatever it was it doesn't sound like the kind of place Sheila would choose to go to. Pamela spoke to Sheila then June came back on and said Sheila had gone to bed.


So Sheila HAD gone to bed, then...

Yesterday you implied maybe Sheila hadn’t gone to bed and had stayed up chatting to Nevill...

Thank you for establishing Sheila had indeed gone to bed, and had probably done so as she worn out
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #741 on: March 11, 2020, 07:48:01 AM »
Two more bedroom crime scene photos with ruffled blankets and indented pillow. Nevill's blue socks were on the floor and his dayclothes on the chair. He had already showered as per his usual routine, changed into light-blue pyjamas and was in bed when the assault by his son began, end of...

Thank you, Myster

I appreciate that, and your pictures are far clearer than the ones I found

I wonder what G-Unit will think up now...now she can’t deny Nevill did indeed go to bed
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The phone call
« Reply #742 on: March 11, 2020, 07:53:36 AM »
Thank you, Myster

I appreciate that, and your pictures are far clearer than the ones I found

I wonder what G-Unit will think up now...now she can’t deny Nevill did indeed go to bed
My bet is she ccan and she will, despite the glaring evidence to the contrary.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #743 on: March 11, 2020, 08:26:03 AM »

I reiterate. When it came to the 'script' Jeremy held all the cards. As the only member of the family to leave the kitchen alive he was able to furnish the police with details of his actions and their conversation in a way which best suited the eventual outcome. There was no one to challenge him..................unless we could find the rabbits he missed. Crispy was too traumatized.


Indeed

Jeremy had carte blanche to concoct that story any way he wanted.

But like all murderers, they always trip up...

For instance, he claims he heard rabbits outside.  Rabbits are hardly noisy, and even if he had done I can’t see him being bothered to go and shoot them.  He was lazy & disinterested in the farm.

Secondly, had he really decided to shoot rabbits he’d have had to of gone to the gun cupboard. It’s a fact that Nevill was meticulous in keeping his guns stored securely, especially since one of his friends was accidentally shot whilst out on a shoot (thankfully, he wasn’t too badly injured), and everyone said how Nevill was horrified when that happened and so religiously kept all his guns locked securely every time he came back from shooting.

He also kept them well-maintained to the highest standard, and always, always kept both the silencer and scope attached to the .22 Rifle as unscrewing them was fiddly and time-consuming; and there was simply no need to remove them because he only used the rifle with them attached.

Rabbits have extremely acute hearing, which is why they’re always shot at with a silencer — a rabbit can hear a bullet before it’s had chance to hit it.

When shooting rabbits one has to keep their distance, hence the necessity of a scope.

So that begs the question: why would Jeremy take a rifle that had no scope or silencer on it, when he knew you needed them to shoot rabbits?

He even admitted the rifle didn’t have the silencer/scope attached, yet it’s been proven the silencer was used; it’s been proven Sheila’s blood was inside the silencer; it’s been proven that the silencer was not even in the secured gun cupboard where Nevill kept all his firearms and ammunition in pristine condition. Furthermore, why wasn’t the scope with the silencer too? Had Nevill removed them (and we all know he didn’t) they’d have been together in the secured gun cupboard.

And the only reason the silencer wasn’t found by the police was that they’ve admitted — and it’s in black and white — that they only had a brief look inside the cupboards and didn’t do a proper, thorough search. They obviously thought it unnecessary as at that time they were of the opinion it was a murder/suicide; they didn’t know a silencer was used; and possibly didn’t even know what one would look like even if they had spotted it tucked away where Jeremy had hidden it to the best of his ability.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The phone call
« Reply #744 on: March 11, 2020, 08:52:46 AM »
Exactly.  If Sheila did the killings why was the silencer hidden away in a cupboard? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #745 on: March 11, 2020, 08:55:08 AM »
"Mrs Neva Temple, who lives next door said Sheila once woke her at 5am with hysterical screams.  'She was shouting loudly and I went to help.  She seemed very distraught."

http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/gambling-man-in-life-of-massacre-model.html?m=0


For goodness sake, don’t you realise how newspapers love to sensationalise?

They embellish, exaggerate and distort — much like Jeremy, the real murderer. He and his crackpot delusional “team” only post old, false, sensationalist lies that were printed before it was discovered it was HIM who was the killer. I’ve noticed they never post up all the press reports about him, do they?

I know reporters, and I know how they work.

For instance, when they said a neighbour had said Sheila had “staring eyes”, the journalist would have put those words into that neighbour’s mouth. The neighbour may well have said Sheila had big eyes and the reporter would have jumped on that and asked “what, staring eyes?” and the neighbour would have said something like “sort of”

That’s what reporters do.

Likewise the neighbour who heard Sheila having an anxiety attack. She would’ve told the reporter about it and the reporter made Sheila sound like something from the Exorcist.

It’s a load of exaggerated nonsense to sell newspapers.

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #746 on: March 11, 2020, 08:58:30 AM »
To be precise, Sheila had an injection on 11th July, but the dose was reduced by 50% at her request. Her psychiatrist described it as a small dose. That was 26 days before the shootings.


Erm, a smaller dose

And still strong enough to zap all her strength, make her limbs stiff and walk like a zombie...
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Offline APRIL

Re: The phone call
« Reply #747 on: March 11, 2020, 09:13:12 AM »
"Mrs Neva Temple, who lives next door said Sheila once woke her at 5am with hysterical screams.  'She was shouting loudly and I went to help.  She seemed very distraught."

http://jeremybamber.blogspot.co.uk/p/gambling-man-in-life-of-massacre-model.html?m=0



Mmm. Interesting. However, if we break this down, we'll discover that the key word here is "ONCE". I'll hazard a guess that the ONE occasion was prior to her hospitalization and before she her medication had been regularized. It maybe worth noting that "hysterical screams" may well have been an exaggeration.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The phone call
« Reply #748 on: March 11, 2020, 09:22:15 AM »



Actually, rabbits do make noises, albeit not particularly loud

However, you’re correct — Jeremy did say he saw rabbits: I was wrong


However, your theory that Jeremy left the rifle on the settle is just that: a theory — which doesn’t hold weight

Jeremy told not one, but TWO lies about where he supposedly left the gun

Both lies are in his two different statements

Now we’ve established he’s a liar, it also means that both of his lies are just that: lies

I don’t believe he took that gun out to shoot rabbits — he took that gun out the secured gun locker and HID it


And if you can’t see that you’re shortsighted.


You’ve chosen to believe lie number one: he left the rifle on the settle in the hallway

The reason you’ve not chosen lie number two: he left the rifle in the kitchenis that you know the settle sounds better for him, and there’d be less chance of it being spotted





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Offline G-Unit

Re: The phone call
« Reply #749 on: March 11, 2020, 10:46:44 AM »

Actually, rabbits do make noises, albeit not particularly loud

However, you’re correct — Jeremy did say he saw rabbits: I was wrong


However, your theory that Jeremy left the rifle on the settle is just that: a theory — which doesn’t hold weight

Jeremy told not one, but TWO lies about where he supposedly left the gun

Both lies are in his two different statements

Now we’ve established he’s a liar, it also means that both of his lies are just that: lies

I don’t believe he took that gun out to shoot rabbits — he took that gun out the secured gun locker and HID it


And if you can’t see that you’re shortsighted.


You’ve chosen to believe lie number one: he left the rifle on the settle in the hallway

The reason you’ve not chosen lie number two: he left the rifle in the kitchenis that you know the settle sounds better for him, and there’d be less chance of it being spotted

Both statements mention wellingtons, so whever the wellingtons were that's where the rifle was. It was the magazine which was left on the settle. It seems that certain areas of the house had interchangeable names; hallway/scullery and den/office. In some areas of the UK scullery was used interchangeably with kitchen. I remember that.
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