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Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #600 on: April 06, 2023, 10:50:32 AM »
Some say Grange has acheived nothing yet..
CB jailed for the rape of DM as adirect result of the appeal on german TV arrange dby SY
hazel Behan may now het justice ..this is what she has to say..

She continued: "Until that day I knew I had to bury it. I knew I had zero chance of justice, but thanks to all of the campaigning and the perseverance of Madeleine’s amazing parents, today, 18 long years after my rape, I have an opportunity to see my attacker behind bars."

" more rapes and 2 sex offences against chldremn.  All down to Grange .

If it wasnt for Grange CB would be  afree man ...commiting  more offences. its through Grange hes locked up

Nothing came of appeals on German TV. It was when his mate accused him that an investigation began.
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Offline John

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« Reply #601 on: April 06, 2023, 10:52:59 AM »
It is perfectly logical, once you have ruled out the parents which they had done.  Do you think the Head of the Metropolitan Police lacks logic?

Are you smarter thsn he is, in your view?  Perhaps you should apply for the job when he gets the boot, I’m sure you’ll have it all sorted in a jiffy.

It is unfortunate but intelligence has taken a back seat to political allegiance these days when appointing police chiefs in London.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #602 on: April 06, 2023, 10:55:49 AM »
Nothing came of appeals on German TV. It was when his mate accused him that an investigation began.

accused him to whom...as i recall it was down to the appeal

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #603 on: April 06, 2023, 10:57:39 AM »
It is unfortunate but intelligence has taken a back seat to political allegiance these days when appointing police chiefs in London.

He has a   maths degree from Cambridge.......thats intelligence
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #604 on: April 06, 2023, 11:24:55 AM »
It is unfortunate but intelligence has taken a back seat to political allegiance these days when appointing police chiefs in London.
So do you think Mark Rowley lacks logic and is unintelligent then?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline John

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #605 on: April 06, 2023, 11:30:14 AM »
So do you think Mark Rowley lacks logic and is unintelligent then?

So do you disagree that the appointment of police chiefs especially in London are politically motivated?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #606 on: April 06, 2023, 11:47:12 AM »
Nothing came of appeals on German TV. It was when his mate accused him that an investigation began.

Didn't Grange have the cell phone dump when the review began? Not to mention all the abduction evidence at their disposal, yet they failed to notice the abductor right under their noses until his mates grassed him up.
Excellent police work there from the World's finest.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #607 on: April 06, 2023, 11:52:58 AM »

So what is that supposed to be .....evidence.

It's from a source ....three years ago.

It is worth noting that once it has been entered into evidence remains evidence to build a case or to be ruled out.  The evidence which convinced the Judicial Police to constitute Brueckner an arguido remains on file and as he is still arguido so obviously he has not been eliminated from their inquiry.

Just as Scotland Yard continues to be able to justify the funding for Madeleine's investigation based on evidence some of which originated in 2007.

So it doesn't matter from where or when evidence comes emanates the importance is that it exists and has been recorded on file.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #608 on: April 06, 2023, 11:53:53 AM »
So do you disagree that the appointment of police chiefs especially in London are politically motivated?
I don't have an opinion on it and I don't think that has any bearing on the words spoken by Mark Rowley before his appointment, so perhaps now you will answer my question without posing another of your own.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #609 on: April 06, 2023, 12:22:56 PM »
The presumption of innocence has nothing to say about eliminating suspects; it's about the treatment of suspects by the Judiciary. The Portuguese Judiciary didn't breach their suspect's right to the presumption of innocence, but I'm not so sure about a certain member of the German Judiciary in his pronoucements about CB. CB's lawyer feels his right to a fair trial may have been compromised if that trial takes place in Bruanchweig.

The point you have sidestepped is that neither the McCanns or Murat were ever charged with any offences making McCann, McCann and Murat as white as the driven snow as far as the law was concerned. 

In Amaral's case when he went through the process of being an arguido, there was evidence to enable charges to be brought against him.  He was tried and convicted.  His appeal against conviction was not upheld.  Making him a convicted criminal.

The subtle nuance for Brueckner is that he is already a convicted criminal serving time.  He has been charged with five other crimes which will be tried when a jurisdiction is decided.  He remains arguido in Madeleine's case and will be charged or not depending on the evidence.

No rush though.  He's got five other trials to work his way through and at present delay seems to be suiting the defence case.

Oh not forgetting that funding for the continuance of the SY investigation of Madeleine's case doesn't appear to be a problem.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #610 on: April 06, 2023, 12:25:47 PM »
accused him to whom...as i recall it was down to the appeal

As I recall it began after OG went to Greece after being summoned by an alleged people trafficker.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #611 on: April 06, 2023, 12:36:21 PM »
The point you have sidestepped is that neither the McCanns or Murat were ever charged with any offences making McCann, McCann and Murat as white as the driven snow as far as the law was concerned. 

In Amaral's case when he went through the process of being an arguido, there was evidence to enable charges to be brought against him.  He was tried and convicted.  His appeal against conviction was not upheld.  Making him a convicted criminal.

The subtle nuance for Brueckner is that he is already a convicted criminal serving time.  He has been charged with five other crimes which will be tried when a jurisdiction is decided.  He remains arguido in Madeleine's case and will be charged or not depending on the evidence.

No rush though.  He's got five other trials to work his way through and at present delay seems to be suiting the defence case.

Oh not forgetting that funding for the continuance of the SY investigation of Madeleine's case doesn't appear to be a problem.

The point you have sidestepped is that neither the McCanns or Murat were ever charged with any offences making McCann, McCann and Murat as white as the driven snow as far as the law was concerned.


Not as white as what you seem to think.


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Now, Portugal's Supreme Court has ruled that neither parent has formally been proved innocent for Maddie's disappearance, and can't be assumed to be so. The couple were ruled out as 'arguidos' (formal suspects) in 2008, but judges have stressed that this does not equate to a ruling of innocence.

Offline Brietta

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #612 on: April 06, 2023, 12:44:15 PM »
The point you have sidestepped is that neither the McCanns or Murat were ever charged with any offences making McCann, McCann and Murat as white as the driven snow as far as the law was concerned.


Not as white as what you seem to think.


About 3,400,000 results (0.54 seconds)
Now, Portugal's Supreme Court has ruled that neither parent has formally been proved innocent for Maddie's disappearance, and can't be assumed to be so. The couple were ruled out as 'arguidos' (formal suspects) in 2008, but judges have stressed that this does not equate to a ruling of innocence.

Your post is mind numbingly repetitive as well as being off topic.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #613 on: April 06, 2023, 12:45:45 PM »
It is worth noting that once it has been entered into evidence remains evidence to build a case or to be ruled out.  The evidence which convinced the Judicial Police to constitute Brueckner an arguido remains on file and as he is still arguido so obviously he has not been eliminated from their inquiry.

Just as Scotland Yard continues to be able to justify the funding for Madeleine's investigation based on evidence some of which originated in 2007.

So it doesn't matter from where or when evidence comes emanates the importance is that it exists and has been recorded on file.

So as you are on about evidence ...notice there was a lack of evidence ...not no evidence.

The case was archived ....not closed.


The 76-page ruling read; “It should not be said that the appellants were cleared via the ruling announcing the archiving of the criminal case.”

It goes on to say it would be wrong to draw any inferences about the couple’s guilt or innocence from their decision.

But it notes the case was shelved not because prosecutors believed Kate and Gerry were innocent, but due to a lack of evidence.

Offline kizzy

Re: Maddie cops seek yet more cash
« Reply #614 on: April 06, 2023, 12:48:10 PM »
Your post is mind numbingly repetitive as well as being off topic.

Think that is a bit of reverse psychology B