Maddie cops seek yet more cash

[G-Unit]

There was nothing factual about it, it was simply propaganda. making something out of nothing, for reasons you refuse to divulge but can easily be guessed at.

Of course it was factual - it was in the statements just like your cites.

[G-Unit]

I used to listen to a radio programme called "Thought for the Day" which expressed sentiments commensurate with well being and good thoughts to set one up for the day.

How sad is it that instead of thinking positively of the day ahead some appear to be bogged down in irrelevant negativity to which very few give credence.

Times have moved on from the groundhog days consistently posted about.  Time to try casting minds over current events with a positive aspect for a change, such as the progress being made in Madeleine's case as signified by the fact the Home Office is still funding it.

I think something like that would be worth thinking and posting about ~ particularly since funding for SY is what this thread is actually all about.

SY agreed to take on this investigation but not if the cost came out of their budget. That's why the Home Office pays.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course it was factual - it was in the statements just like your cites.

this was the post of yours I was referring to
“Just ensuring that people realise that it wasn't all about sitting there laughing and joking, having had a wonderful day.”

Do you disagree with all the statements given by those in attendance at the Tapas table that the McCanns were perfectly normal, chatty and relaxed that evening?  Because that is very much the impression I get from their statements.  You are choosing to nit pick and focus one one small detail in order to make out that there was anxiety, unhappiness and stress at the table from Kate that night when the overall impression given from the statements is quite the opposite.  This is how propaganda works.  You are very good at it, well done.

[Brietta]

SY agreed to take on this investigation but not if the cost came out of their budget. That's why the Home Office pays.

Agreement having been reached as to the funding of the inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance why do you suppose
some individuals continue to submit so many Freedom Of Information inquiries about it.

[Brietta]

this was the post of yours I was referring to
“Just ensuring that people realise that it wasn't all about sitting there laughing and joking, having had a wonderful day.”

Do you disagree with all the statements given by those in attendance at the Tapas table that the McCanns were perfectly normal, chatty and relaxed that evening?  Because that is very much the impression I get from their statements.  You are choosing to nit pick and focus one one small detail in order to make out that there was anxiety, unhappiness and stress at the table from Kate that night when the overall impression given from the statements is quite the opposite.  This is how propaganda works.  You are very good at it, well done.

I think there is always a grain utilised to enable the truth of the lie.  Have we ever had a thread solely on propaganda?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think there is always a grain utilised to enable the truth of the lie.  Have we ever had a thread solely on propaganda?

“Propagandists have a specified goal or set of goals. To achieve these, they deliberately select facts, arguments, and displays of symbols and present them in ways they think will have the most effect. To maximize effect, they may omit or distort pertinent facts or simply lie, and they may try to divert the attention of the reactors (the people they are trying to sway) from everything but their own propaganda”.
By ignoring the overwhelming evidence that the McCanns were perfectly normal, relaxed and chatty to focus on a couple of observations made not by Kate but one of her friends, we have a example of the propaganda techniques described above.

[Brietta]

“Propagandists have a specified goal or set of goals. To achieve these, they deliberately select facts, arguments, and displays of symbols and present them in ways they think will have the most effect. To maximize effect, they may omit or distort pertinent facts or simply lie, and they may try to divert the attention of the reactors (the people they are trying to sway) from everything but their own propaganda”.
By ignoring the overwhelming evidence that the McCanns were perfectly normal, relaxed and chatty to focus on a couple of observations made not by Kate but one of her friends, we have a example of the propaganda techniques described above.

Factoids make the "good guys" (NOUN - an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact:) but the reality is in the campaigns which have gone on against funding the search for Madeleine McCann since the earliest says when her parents were on their own but under constant attack.  Until the present day and throughout the intervening period when Home Office money funding was made available,

[Mr Gray]

“Propagandists have a specified goal or set of goals. To achieve these, they deliberately select facts, arguments, and displays of symbols and present them in ways they think will have the most effect. To maximize effect, they may omit or distort pertinent facts or simply lie, and they may try to divert the attention of the reactors (the people they are trying to sway) from everything but their own propaganda”.
By ignoring the overwhelming evidence that the McCanns were perfectly normal, relaxed and chatty to focus on a couple of observations made not by Kate but one of her friends, we have a example of the propaganda techniques described above.

The fact that gunit has look at such minutiae shows in reality there's no real evidence against the mccanns

[Eleanor]

Factoids make the "good guys" (NOUN - an item of unreliable information that is reported and repeated so often that it becomes accepted as fact:) but the reality is in the campaigns which have gone on against funding the search for Madeleine McCann since the earliest says when her parents were on their own but under constant attack.  Until the present day and throughout the intervening period when Home Office money funding was made available,

What I will never understand is Why.

[Eleanor]

The fact that gunit has look at such minutiae shows in reality there's no real evidence against the mccanns

This is True.  So best that Gunit just gets on with it.  She is doing everyone a favour.

[G-Unit]

It's interesting to see how much time and effort some people devote to analysing and criticising my posts and myself. A lot of effort goes into trying to discredit me and everything I post, it seems. In my opinion it hasn't and doesn't work so it's a complete waste of their time.

The Special Grant funding of Operation Grange has been descibed as 'going cap in hand' to the Home Office, but I don't think that's quite how it works. Firstly, it was the MPS who made it a condition of their involvement that they would get this funding and not have to use their own budget. Secondly, OG can spend money and claim it back at the end of the year if they wish. Thirdly, it's the MPS/OG who decide if the investigation continues or not, not the Home Office.

My second and third points can be found on the Home Office's news blog, added in 2019;
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/

[Brietta]

What I will never understand is Why.

It is way beyond my comprehension too.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It's interesting to see how much time and effort some people devote to analysing and criticising my posts and myself. A lot of effort goes into trying to discredit me and everything I post, it seems. In my opinion it hasn't and doesn't work so it's a complete waste of their time.

The Special Grant funding of Operation Grange has been descibed as 'going cap in hand' to the Home Office, but I don't think that's quite how it works. Firstly, it was the MPS who made it a condition of their involvement that they would get this funding and not have to use their own budget. Secondly, OG can spend money and claim it back at the end of the year if they wish. Thirdly, it's the MPS/OG who decide if the investigation continues or not, not the Home Office.

My second and third points can be found on the Home Office's news blog, added in 2019;
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/

A lot of effort goes into trying to discredit the McCanns and the investigation into Madeleine’s possible abductor.  In my opinion it hasn’t and doesn’t work thanks to the balance provided by those of us who are not pursuing a McCanns Dunnit agenda and so it would seem they are completely wasting their time.

[Brietta]

It's interesting to see how much time and effort some people devote to analysing and criticising my posts and myself. A lot of effort goes into trying to discredit me and everything I post, it seems. In my opinion it hasn't and doesn't work so it's a complete waste of their time.

The Special Grant funding of Operation Grange has been descibed as 'going cap in hand' to the Home Office, but I don't think that's quite how it works. Firstly, it was the MPS who made it a condition of their involvement that they would get this funding and not have to use their own budget. Secondly, OG can spend money and claim it back at the end of the year if they wish. Thirdly, it's the MPS/OG who decide if the investigation continues or not, not the Home Office.

My second and third points can be found on the Home Office's news blog, added in 2019;
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/06/05/home-office-update-on-funding-for-operation-grange/

Please be so kind as to cite the accusations you allege of personal criticism directed at you.  Bearing in mind my special subject of the day is "factoid"

Having just suffered from a prolonged episode of being bullied with every post made I am particularly anxious that such episodes are reported and nipped in the bud.

[Wonderfulspam]

The fact that gunit has look at such minutiae shows in reality there's no real evidence against the mccanns

Yes yes, we know there's no real evidence against the McCanns. That's why they were never charged with any crime against Madeleine. There's no real evidence against Christian Brueckner either, & that's why he hasn't been charged.