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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2020, 11:34:28 PM »
It was shown to be in one piece in pictures after the murders. How could Glynis Howard demonstrate the following with the weapon if it were in the state Bamber claims?

That’s one of the reasons why Jeremy had them cremated...
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Offline Caroline

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2020, 11:35:25 PM »
I do abide by forum rules and I've never said that I support anyone, I think you're leaping to conclusions there.

Well, I think it's a conclusion that other would have come to also.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2020, 11:35:56 PM »
That’s one of the reasons why Jeremy had them cremated...

In what way?

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Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #153 on: March 27, 2020, 01:03:09 AM »
Well, I think it's a conclusion that other would have come to also.


Questioning somebody's guilt, and supporting their innocence are two very different things, IMO.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #154 on: March 27, 2020, 01:22:18 AM »

Questioning somebody's guilt, and supporting their innocence are two very different things, IMO.

It depends how you resent it.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #155 on: March 27, 2020, 06:41:59 AM »
I do abide by forum rules and I've never said that I support anyone, I think you're leaping to conclusions there.


A conclusion your every word makes it easy to leap to.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #156 on: March 27, 2020, 07:35:06 AM »
I do abide by forum rules and I've never said that I support anyone, I think you're leaping to conclusions there.
If you were truly open minded you would question the evidence both ways, and you would not repeatedly ignore certain of the evidence which clearly points to Sheila’s non-involvement in the killings.  IMO.
“we have carried out a very serious investigation and there is no indication whatsoever Madeleine McCann's parents are linked to her disappearance” - Hans Christian Wolters, German Prosecutor..

“Conspiracy theories exhibit a strong obsession with detail, often taking the form of highlighting a tiny piece of evidence and blowing it up out of all proportion, buttressing their claims with a display of pseudo-scholarship.  When they examine the real evidence, conspiracy theorists do not accept that minor inconsistencies come from mistakes in reporting.” Sir Richard J Evans, author and historian

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #157 on: March 27, 2020, 08:13:46 AM »
In what way?

Various reasons.

One would be that although the pathologist would have recorded the height and weight of Sheila, he wouldn’t have measured the length of her arms. And that alone would have proved she couldn’t have shot herself.

It’s also possible that Nevill, June or Sheila could have had minute traces of Jeremy’s skin/blood underneath their fingernails — but samples weren’t taken as the police insisted it was a murder/suicide. During the violent struggle with Nevill one of Jeremy’s gloves fell off, and that REALLY concerned him for some reason.

Jeremy had scratches on his hand, noticed on the day of the murders and days later too. The police saw them, as did the secretary and various other people. He claimed he’d hurt himself on the tractor, but he would say that wouldn’t he...

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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #158 on: March 27, 2020, 09:29:13 AM »
Well, I think it's a conclusion that other would have come to also.

Just because people reach a conclusion doesn't mean they're right.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #159 on: March 27, 2020, 09:31:24 AM »

A conclusion your every word makes it easy to leap to.

Only those prone to leaping imo.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #160 on: March 27, 2020, 09:33:25 AM »

Questioning somebody's guilt, and supporting their innocence are two very different things, IMO.

You know that and I know that, but some seem to find the difference difficult to grasp.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #161 on: March 27, 2020, 09:45:47 AM »
Just because people reach a conclusion doesn't mean they're right.


So you’re finally admitting your conclusion doesn’t mean you’re right, G-unit...
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #162 on: March 27, 2020, 10:46:47 AM »

So you’re finally admitting your conclusion doesn’t mean you’re right, G-unit...

I'm not discussing my conclusions, I'm discussing those which others have leaped to.
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #163 on: March 27, 2020, 11:49:51 AM »
Just because people reach a conclusion doesn't mean they're right.

There are lots of people who claim that they are fence sitters, you can tell when they aren't because they never accept any evidence that Bamber is responsible and make silly excuses for behaviour that is clearly at odds with an innocent man - you do that.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Weapons kept at White House Farm
« Reply #164 on: March 27, 2020, 12:24:41 PM »
There are lots of people who claim that they are fence sitters, you can tell when they aren't because they never accept any evidence that Bamber is responsible and make silly excuses for behaviour that is clearly at odds with an innocent man - you do that.

Do I? Do you have examples?
No-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance because belief without evidence is useless.