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Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2020, 03:41:26 PM »
Well if it’s true I guess we can be thankful that the little weasel changed his mind.  It is somewhat disturbing to know just how much the government is in thrall to this man.  The sooner he gets the boot the better IMO.

At last something we agree on  ?{)(**

It is worrying though that Johnson is so easily swayed by very bad advice.
#Borishasfailed

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2020, 04:56:20 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/22/nhs-staff-cannon-fodder-lack-of-coronavirus-protection

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Frontline NHS staff are not getting the protective equipment they need to treat coronavirus patients, leaving them feeling like “cannon fodder”, a grassroots doctors’ organisation has said.

Healthcare workers in hospitals have been voicing frustration and fear over the lack of personal protective equipment, saying they are having to substitute the correct gear with items that are less effective – or even improvise with non-medical materials.

Responding to staff concerns, Dr Rinesh Parmar, chair of the Doctors’ Association, told BBC1’s The Andrew Marr Show: “We have had doctors tell us they feel like lambs to the slaughter, that they feel like cannon fodder. GPs tell us that they feel absolutely abandoned.

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“We are all pleading with Boris Johnson that [the government] really look into arranging the vital personal protection equipment that all of us need on the NHS frontline. What our doctors are telling us is that although equipment is arriving, some of it is inadequate, some of it doesn’t meet the World Health Organization guidance. That really doesn’t fill frontline healthcare staff with the confidence that they need.”

Nurses in the Royal Free hospital in north London have been affixing clinical waste bags around their legs, the Guardian has been told, while at North Middlesex hospital they have been tying plastic aprons around their heads.

One nurse, who did not wish to be named, said: “Widespread nurses are making their own PPE. I know friends I trained with doing the same. We have to protect ourselves, some of us have children and babies. We are trying to help people but have to protect families. I don’t know why we are not getting PPE.”


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The lack of PPE raises the prospects of NHS staff falling ill – and potentially spreading Covid-19 – at a time of unprecedented demand, when attempts are being made to bolster the workforce.

But there are also concerns that existing staff members who are unwell are not getting sufficient support or being tested.

A nurse at a London trust said one of her colleagues was asking for help from her, having failed to get it elsewhere. “One of my colleagues was asking for help from me, to check if he can come to A&E,” she said. “The colleague’s temperature is spiking at 40.3C [104.6F] – before, it never went below 38.6 [101.4F]. They are taking paracetamol every four hours.

“We wanted them to go to A&E but the advice of 111 is not to go. We have said they have to come and be tested. This person is staff – why can they not get this? I am worried about them as they are having body pains and no one seems to care.

“Our colleagues in A&E said: ‘Come in and we will test you.’ Sometimes we have to save our colleagues.”

Jason Leitch, NHS national clinical director of healthcare quality and strategy, insisted there was sufficient supply of PPE but admitted distribution had been an issue.

He told BBC Breakfast on Sunday: “I know there is enough supply, the distribution has been challenging, because we’re adding in new places, we’re adding in care homes, we’re adding in community pharmacies. We’ve not had to do regular PPE transmission to those places before, so that is causing some individual challenges around the four UK countries.”


He said staff had to be trained in how to fit the high-end masks, adding: “I am confident that the beginning of that supply chain is robust
#Borishasfailed

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2020, 05:58:22 PM »
At last something we agree on  ?{)(**

It is worrying though that Johnson is so easily swayed by very bad advice.
He is in a very difficult position and thank god he is being flexible and now moving swiftly to adopt new measures based on the latest advice.  Thank god he is not Donald Trump. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2020, 06:03:47 PM »
He is in a very difficult position and thank god he is being flexible and now moving swiftly to adopt new measures based on the latest advice.  Thank god he is not Donald Trump.

Two agreements in one day.  ?{)(**

Still as long as Cummings is still advising it’s still a worry.
#Borishasfailed

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #109 on: March 22, 2020, 06:14:58 PM »
Two agreements in one day.  ?{)(**

Still as long as Cummings is still advising it’s still a worry.
Cummings appears to have done a complete volte face and the government’s instructions are now much more in step with the rest of the world.  No matter how vile he is I don’t seriously believe he wants us all to die. 
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #110 on: March 22, 2020, 06:31:08 PM »
Cummings appears to have done a complete volte face and the government’s instructions are now much more in step with the rest of the world.  No matter how vile he is I don’t seriously believe he wants us all to die.

Of course he doesn’t want us all to die....he just doesn’t care if we do.
#Borishasfailed

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #111 on: March 22, 2020, 06:33:23 PM »
Of course he doesn’t want us all to die....he just doesn’t care if we do.
Oh well, then we owe to ourselves to ensure we don’t all die, just to spite him.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #112 on: March 22, 2020, 06:40:31 PM »
Oh well, then we owe to ourselves to ensure we don’t all die, just to spite him.

Now you’re talking  8(0(*
#Borishasfailed

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #113 on: March 23, 2020, 06:19:35 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/mar/22/nhs-staff-cannon-fodder-lack-of-coronavirus-protection

NHS staff feel like 'cannon fodder' over lack of coronavirus protection
Frontline staff in plea for PPE as some improvise by tying plastic aprons around their heads
Coronavirus – latest updates
See all our coronavirus coverage
Haroon Siddique and Sarah Marsh
Sun 22 Mar 2020 14.19 GMT Last modified on Sun 22 Mar 2020 14.39 GMT

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 'Lambs to the slaughter': NHS staff say they feel abandoned by government – video
Frontline NHS staff are not getting the protective equipment they need to treat coronavirus patients, leaving them feeling like “cannon fodder”, a grassroots doctors’ organisation has said.

Healthcare workers in hospitals have been voicing frustration and fear over the lack of personal protective equipment, saying they are having to substitute the correct gear with items that are less effective – or even improvise with non-medical materials.

Responding to staff concerns, Dr Rinesh Parmar, chair of the Doctors’ Association, told BBC1’s The Andrew Marr Show: “We have had doctors tell us they feel like lambs to the slaughter, that they feel like cannon fodder. GPs tell us that they feel absolutely abandoned.

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“We are all pleading with Boris Johnson that [the government] really look into arranging the vital personal protection equipment that all of us need on the NHS frontline. What our doctors are telling us is that although equipment is arriving, some of it is inadequate, some of it doesn’t meet the World Health Organization guidance. That really doesn’t fill frontline healthcare staff with the confidence that they need.”

Nurses in the Royal Free hospital in north London have been affixing clinical waste bags around their legs, the Guardian has been told, while at North Middlesex hospital they have been tying plastic aprons around their heads.

One nurse, who did not wish to be named, said: “Widespread nurses are making their own PPE. I know friends I trained with doing the same. We have to protect ourselves, some of us have children and babies. We are trying to help people but have to protect families. I don’t know why we are not getting PPE.”


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The lack of PPE raises the prospects of NHS staff falling ill – and potentially spreading Covid-19 – at a time of unprecedented demand, when attempts are being made to bolster the workforce.

But there are also concerns that existing staff members who are unwell are not getting sufficient support or being tested.

A nurse at a London trust said one of her colleagues was asking for help from her, having failed to get it elsewhere. “One of my colleagues was asking for help from me, to check if he can come to A&E,” she said. “The colleague’s temperature is spiking at 40.3C [104.6F] – before, it never went below 38.6 [101.4F]. They are taking paracetamol every four hours.

“We wanted them to go to A&E but the advice of 111 is not to go. We have said they have to come and be tested. This person is staff – why can they not get this? I am worried about them as they are having body pains and no one seems to care.

“Our colleagues in A&E said: ‘Come in and we will test you.’ Sometimes we have to save our colleagues.”

Jason Leitch, NHS national clinical director of healthcare quality and strategy, insisted there was sufficient supply of PPE but admitted distribution had been an issue.

He told BBC Breakfast on Sunday: “I know there is enough supply, the distribution has been challenging, because we’re adding in new places, we’re adding in care homes, we’re adding in community pharmacies. We’ve not had to do regular PPE transmission to those places before, so that is causing some individual challenges around the four UK countries.”


He said staff had to be trained in how to fit the high-end masks, adding: “I am confident that the beginning of that supply chain is robust

If we must have point scoring then we need to have a balance.

Iraq war started by Phoney tony and bampot Bush:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/mod-left-uk-forces-in-iraq-ill-equipped-amid-lack-of-plan-chilcot-report-says

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #114 on: March 23, 2020, 06:49:46 PM »
If we must have point scoring then we need to have a balance.

Iraq war started by Phoney tony and bampot Bush:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jul/06/mod-left-uk-forces-in-iraq-ill-equipped-amid-lack-of-plan-chilcot-report-says

You seem to be under the illusion that I would offer any support of Blair’s actions.
#Borishasfailed

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #115 on: March 23, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »
You seem to be under the illusion that I would offer any support of Blair’s actions.

No, I am not under that impression Faith. I am pointing out that labour and Tory make errors. None are out right wonderful.

I read that your political affiliation is with the far left of the party political spectrum- I have no issue with that.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Faithlilly

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #116 on: March 23, 2020, 10:22:24 PM »
No, I am not under that impression Faith. I am pointing out that labour and Tory make errors. None are out right wonderful.

I read that your political affiliation is with the far left of the party political spectrum- I have no issue with that.

I am a social democrat therefore I’m left of centre but not hard left.
#Borishasfailed

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2020, 07:26:39 AM »
“Boris deserves measured praise for the tone, content and delivery of his address. For the first time in his premiership I saw an embryo statesman emerging - discarding the natural bonhomie that had become his stock-in-trade - replaced by the gravitas which was required. Not too much distracting hand-waving, thank goodness but with a reasonably-paced delivery and a clear, short unambiguous message. As someone who was appalled at his rise to the top of the Tory party and even rejoiced when he continued to make gaffes, this morning I have to eat a starter portion of humble pie. Cometh the hour, cometh Boris. May he lead the nation successfully through this test.”

I think you would have to be extremely bitter and churlish to disagree with this comment from a Times reader, following yesterday’s announcement.  He needs our collective support now, love him or loathe him.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2020, 01:56:14 PM »
I am a social democrat therefore I’m left of centre but not hard left.


I don't have a set political position it changes for many reasons. I do listen to all partys'  claims and make a judgement call on that  from very far right to very far left, and everyone in between.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Is Boris’s Lax Leadership Putting Us All in Danger ?
« Reply #119 on: March 24, 2020, 04:14:49 PM »
Itelexit is coming!!!

Thanks to the EU's open borders which are not being closed which is against the EU laws  ^*&& when it suits them.

Here we see the open wounds of the struggling countries and the UN-ELECTED  saviors in EU land...

France and Germany refusing to export masks and other vital equipment to save their own and the uninvited asylum seekers via boats to Italy. have Fined them for helping their own economy in the light of lock down.

THANK YOU BREXITEERS FOR GETTING UK OUT IN TIME!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1259031/coronavirus-news-italy-cases-deaths-eu-italexit-gdp-recession-spt

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1259031/coronavirus-news-italy-cases-deaths-eu-italexit-gdp-recession-spt

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/italy-fined-by-eu-top-court-for-failing-to-recoup-sardinian-aid


Scottish Independence with EU status.... not looking so good now is it.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin