How Did JB Commit The Killings

[Nicholas]

Whilst off the record snippets to a book author are of interest

What Bamber says to Scott Lomax is telling Holly as is the time around when he communicated with him

When did Bamber speak to him do you know?

[Nicholas]

Oh Holly that's just ignoring things you don't want to hear. His statement etc. were made over 35 years ago and he's had time to reflect, his opinion on the subjects DOES matter and any new trial would include it.

As would the police, CPS & CCRC

[Nicholas]

Wheres that to G, please.,can't find it.
So going by that its possible Bamber could have left by that door.
Parallels to another case, why use a window when a perfectly operational door is available.

Suggestive of ‘foresight’

[ISpyWithMyEye]

The difference between CAL's reconstruction and mine is hers is big on melo-drama and zero on the physical evidence and mine is big on the physical evidence and zero on melo-drama.

Are you having a laugh?

CAL’s book was based on thoroughly RESEARCHED FACTS.

THERE was no melodrama at all!

All your arguments, Holly, are wishful thinking scenarios...that’s why you’ve been bleating on since 2014 and STILL haven’t achieved ONE single thing.

Nor will you.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I thought the bolt fastened vertically, was stuck in the up position and could be knocked into place by tapping on the glass from the outside?

That was the kitchen window, VS — the one Jeremy escaped through. He simply shut it after climbing through, banged it — and the handle slipped down (as it was loose) into what appeared to be the locked position

The window he entered by was the bathroom sash. He used a small blade to slide the latch across...easy as anything.

He admitted it, too. He told police he’d done it — he just altered the date, that’s all.

[Nicholas]

Are you having a laugh?

CAL’s book was based on thoroughly RESEARCHED FACTS.

THERE was no melodrama at all!

All your arguments, Holly, are wishful thinking scenarios...that’s why you’ve been bleating on since 2014 and STILL haven’t achieved ONE single thing.

Nor will you.

I concur

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Whilst off the record snippets to a book author are of interest, they cannot and do not take precedence over official records prepared by the pathologist pre and post trial and his trial testimony none of which were harmful to JB.

The pathologist has always made clear he was unable to conclude murder or suicide.  Its only those here who think they no more than a highly qualified pathologist with years of experience who was a guest on Desert Island discs!

You need to stop being disrespectful to experts.

CAL thoroughly researched everything for her book, including the correspondence Jeremy shared with her himself. You know, those FIVE OR SIX letter he claimed to have written to her. That FAT lie was proven when CAL posted up the HUNDREDS she’d received...so, Holly, was JB lying about that or not? Eh?

Dr Vanezis has STATED that he does NOT believe Sheila was capable of it — so you’re either lying too, or you’ve not assimilated what Vanezis said.

I don’t know how or why you bang on spouting same tired old nonsense...how many more years do you need before it registers that JB is a convicted murderer and will never, ever be released? The time you waste discussing trivial unimportant details that are too ludicrous to even reply to is staggering. Every time I come on here you’re online...you seem to live and breathe it. It’s so terribly unhealthy!

[G-Unit]

Wheres that to G, please.,can't find it.
So going by that its possible Bamber could have left by that door.
Parallels to another case, why use a window when a perfectly operational door is available.

Here you are.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

The window is certainly nothing I'm talking to forensic scientists about.  It's a sideshow afaic.  In any event the trial judge has already killed it dead:

As the trial Judge said (at page 10E):

"… how he got there and out again whether by the kitchen window or any other means, though of interest, cannot affect the outcome of the case"

It's what's known as a biased judge!

The Judge knows more about law than you, Holly

So do the appeal court — and TWICE they’ve slung out JB’s weak ludicrous claims

A whole HOST of overwhelming EVIDENCE convicted Jeremy Bamber....and the Judge was right. Despite discovering how Jeremy Bamber entrered and left the house, as he wasn’t SEEN, they couldn’t prove he did use those windows despite knowing he must have. It’s possible, though highly unlikely, he entered through another window, or even had a key cut to door that had no bolt ...it can’t be proven. What can be proved though are all the bloods, forensics, silencer, lack of gsw, blood etc on Sheila

And yes, maybe he DID use a key, no-one knows and it isn’t important

[Nicholas]

The Judge knows more about law than you, Holly

So do the appeal court — and TWICE they’ve slung out JB’s weak ludicrous claims

A whole HOST of overwhelming EVIDENCE convicted Jeremy Bamber....and the Judge was right. Despite discovering how Jeremy Bamber entree and left the house, as he wasn’t SEEN, they couldn’t prove he did use those windows despite knowing he must have. It’s possible, though highly unlikely, he entered through another window, or even had a key cut to door that had no bolt ...it can’t be proven. What cane be proved though are all the bloods, forensics, silencer, lack of gsw, blood etc on Sheila

This is boring now...

Plus the CPS know Bamber has been attempting innocence fraud since his arrest - his full life tariff supports this

[Nicholas]

You need to stop being disrespectful to experts.

CAL thoroughly researched everything for her book, including the correspondence Jeremy shared with her himself. You know, those FIVE OR SIX letter he claimed to have written to her. That FAT lie was proven when CAL posted up the HUNDREDS she’d received...so, Holly, was JB lying about that or not? Eh?

Dr Vanezis has STATED that he does NOT believe Sheila was capable of it — so you’re either lying too, or you’ve not assimilated what Vanezis said.

I don’t know how or why you bang on spouting same tired old nonsense...how many more years do you need before it registers that JB is a convicted murderer and will never, ever be released? The time you waste discussing trivial unimportant details that are too ludicrous to even reply to is staggering. Every time I come on here you’re online...you seem to live and breathe it. It’s so terribly unhealthy!

‘The Murders at White House Farm’ is available on audiobook now https://www.storytel.com/in/en/books/1169910-The-Murders-at-White-House-Farm

[Nicholas]

The Judge knows more about law than you, Holly

So do the appeal court — and TWICE they’ve slung out JB’s weak ludicrous claims

A whole HOST of overwhelming EVIDENCE convicted Jeremy Bamber....and the Judge was right. Despite discovering how Jeremy Bamber entrered and left the house, as he wasn’t SEEN, they couldn’t prove he did use those windows despite knowing he must have. It’s possible, though highly unlikely, he entered through another window, or even had a key cut to door that had no bolt ...it can’t be proven. What can be proved though are all the bloods, forensics, silencer, lack of gsw, blood etc on Sheila

And yes, maybe he DID use a key, no-one knows and it isn’t important

Maybe Holly buys into Bamber’s philosophy ?

Bamber - 2010

“the trick is to always hope that there is something that will help.”

[barrier]

Here you are.

Thank you,so its possible JB could have left this way,sort of a deadlock on it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7466.msg349195#msg349195

I don’t see any rebuttal of CAL’s scenario?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The difference between CAL's reconstruction and mine is hers is big on melo-drama and zero on the physical evidence and mine is big on the physical evidence and zero on melo-drama.

Can you give an example of what you perceive to be “melo-drama” (sic)?