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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #90 on: April 19, 2020, 10:02:34 AM »
I'm talking about a shooting reconstruction.


You need witnesses for any reconstruction, otherwise it’s just assumption.

It’s a pointless exercise, and won’t determine anything

It would be laughed away...
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #91 on: April 19, 2020, 10:03:12 AM »


They established all this 35 years ago, Holly!

Nevill wasn’t shot in the bedroom (none of his bloodstains were there) — he was shot on the landing. Surely you know that? Surely you know police & forensics PROVED that by the casings and Nevill’s blood on the landing?

It’s blatantly obvious that the perp, Jeremy Bamber, quietly crept into the bedroom whilst June & Nevill were sleeping, and the bullets hit June first. Simple as that. Nevill obviously jumped up out of bed, struggled with Jeremy by the bedroom door and onto the landing — that’s where June comes in again — she raced to the door to try and help Nevill, hence her bloodstains on the carpet, Jeremy punched her in the face blackening her eye, she ran back a bit in all the panic and mayhem, then Jeremy shot her between her eyes. DEAD.

Nevill was then shot with the last of the bullets Jeremy had loaded in the rifle; Nevill would’ve known the rifle was now empty & raced downstairs to raise the alarm by calling 999 & possibly arming himself. You know the rest...Jeremy finished Nevill off in the kitchen.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #92 on: April 19, 2020, 10:05:03 AM »
Who is "They"?


The CPS, court, QCs, police etc..
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #93 on: April 19, 2020, 10:06:53 AM »
Experts demonstrate their competence through qualifications in large part.  What qualifications did MF possess at trial that made him competent and suitable to provide the court with reliable testimony over matters involving very complex ballistics?
Have you got a qualified ballistics expert on your side that can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Jeremy could not have killed Nevill?
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #94 on: April 19, 2020, 10:08:24 AM »
What are you suggesting?

I think he was hell bent on proving his theories, which Dr Vanezis said had no evidential value to them, and wasn't bothered about how he achieved it.  This can be evidenced by the fact he entered the silencer into the wrong property  book to avoid it coming under the sort of scrutiny it would have undergone had he entered it into the correct property book. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #95 on: April 19, 2020, 10:12:30 AM »
I think he was hell bent on proving his theories, which Dr Vanezis said had no evidential value to them, and wasn't bothered about how he achieved it.  This can be evidenced by the fact he entered the silencer into the wrong property  book to avoid it coming under the sort of scrutiny it would have undergone had he entered it into the correct property book.
Are you saying he fabricated witness statements?
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #96 on: April 19, 2020, 10:12:50 AM »
Because imo the physical evidence supports the reconstruction I've explained which lends support to a tel call/JB.


But the courts aren’t interested in your opinion, Holly

You’re nothing to do with any of it

Bamber’s had three bites at the cherry, and that’s the end of it. If you seriously think they’re going to take notice of someone attempting a reconstruction that they’ve made up in their heads 35 years later, and it wouldn’t reveal anything of value, I can only congratulate you on your amazing amount of optimism when the chances of it happening are zero.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #97 on: April 19, 2020, 10:22:28 AM »
The JFK reconstruction showed where the shooter and JFK were located using bullet trajectory analysis.  As we know this bullet travelled some distance.

A reconstruction at WHF will be based on the same principles albeit the distances are much shorter which provides for even greater accuracy as you don't have to contend with any air resistance and drag.

Why do you think the pathologist provided information about the trajectories of the gunshot wounds and wound tracks if they have no meaning?

Why do you think all the casings were photographed at soc?

Why do you think the blood stains to floors were photographed/documented and tested?

Why do you think info re the distance of shots was made available?

The fact the above hasn't to date been pulled together to reconstruct what happened based on the physical evidence/scientific facts doesn't mean its not going to happen in the future.



Holly, the reason everything was photographed and detailed was so that EXPERTS could examine the EVIDENCE they had put before them, and work out how events took place. A reconstruction wasn’t needed — they had the evidence there.

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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #98 on: April 19, 2020, 10:25:59 AM »
Experts demonstrate their competence through qualifications in large part.  What qualifications did MF possess at trial that made him competent and suitable to provide the court with reliable testimony over matters involving very complex ballistics?


Enough qualifications and thirteen years experts satisfy the court he was an expert in his field.

What qualifications do you have to doubt him?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #99 on: April 19, 2020, 10:31:29 AM »
Therein it all falls down imo,the alleged phone call,why on earth would Nevill phone his son when his daughter is supposedly going crazy with a gun,it made no sense to the jury back in 86,it makes no sense with the passing of time.

It might make no sense to you but the totality of the physical evidence at soc suggests otherwise.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2020, 10:34:22 AM »
Have you got a qualified ballistics expert on your side that can prove without a shadow of a doubt that Jeremy could not have killed Nevill?

I would not entertain anyone who wasn't appropriately qualified and experienced.  Why would I when the CoA wouldn't?

I've set out what I believe a reconstruction will demonstrate.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline barrier

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2020, 10:36:30 AM »
It might make no sense to you but the totality of the physical evidence at soc suggests otherwise.

Lack of physical evidence in the phone call you mean,one man's word,the jury never believed him.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2020, 10:40:14 AM »
Are you saying he fabricated witness statements?

I think he probably used coercion and intimidation.  CC said as much in his book.

During JB's police interview he told him SC could not have shot herself twice.  This is not what the pathologist said.  He has always maintained he was unable to say one way or the other.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2020, 10:42:42 AM »
I think he probably used coercion and intimidation.  CC said as much in his book.

During JB's police interview he told him SC could not have shot herself twice.  This is not what the pathologist said.  He has always maintained he was unable to say one way or the other.

False.

Why are you saying these things that aren’t true?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2020, 10:43:16 AM »
Lack of physical evidence in the phone call you mean,one man's word,the jury never believed him.

No barrier I mean the totality of the physical evidence at soc which shows NB was first shot on the landing stairs and the perp was shooting out of the bedroom onto the landing.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?