How Did JB Commit The Killings

[Holly Goodhead]

False.

Why are you saying these things that aren’t true?

What is false?

[barrier]

No barrier I mean the totality of the physical evidence at soc which shows NB was first shot on the landing stairs and the perp was shooting out of the bedroom onto the landing.

This proves it was Sheila as the shooter? how?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think he probably used coercion and intimidation.  CC said as much in his book.

During JB's police interview he told him SC could not have shot herself twice.  This is not what the pathologist said.  He has always maintained he was unable to say one way or the other.

Cite please.  Is this police officer who you are besmirching still alive?  Furthermore why has the witness who was coerced and intimidated into coming up with the exact same information as JM not come forward in the last 35 years to say how he was coerced and intimidated into lying in his police statement?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I would not entertain anyone who wasn't appropriately qualified and experienced.  Why would I when the CoA wouldn't?

I've set out what I believe a reconstruction will demonstrate.

You didn’t answer the question.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Holly, can you definitively state that it is impossible for Jeremy Bamber to have shot NB from a position above him?  If so, why?  I can think of numerous scenarios which has Bamber towering over Nevill, how would you be able to prove none of them happened using a reconstruction?

Well?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

No barrier I mean the totality of the physical evidence at soc which shows NB was first shot on the landing stairs and the perp was shooting out of the bedroom onto the landing.

Jeremy was either standing in the hallway  a good few metres from the bedroom, after having shot June — then Nevill ran out the room to try and disarm Jeremy, or, Jeremy rushed downstairs knowing he only had four bullets left and stood at the bottom of the stairs as Nevill was at top and fired into him....that’s how he managed to shoot him in his face and arm

It’s obvious

[APRIL]

Jeremy was either standing in the hallway  a good few metres from the bedroom, after having shot June — then Nevill ran out the room to try and disarm Jeremy, or, Jeremy rushed downstairs knowing he only had four bullets left and stood at the bottom of the stairs as Nevill was at top and fired into him....that’s how he managed to shoot him in his face and arm

It’s obvious

Just a thought, but surely, had Nevill received that horrendous facial injury at the top of the stairs, it would have sent him reeling? Wouldn't there have been a blood trail all the way down the staircase?

[mrswah]

He didn't testify. 

You will find nearly all witnesses incl JB were dealt with almost single handedly by DS Jones.  Same officer who was responsible for the silencer.  Same officer who was the only dissenter from day 1.  Same officer who told a Sky drama/docu that he knew JB had committed the killings but he just had to pray something would turn up to prove him right!  And it did turn up by way of JM and the silencer both of which he was closely involved in.

The fact that the witnesses didn't make statements until September can't have helped matters, IMO.

[mrswah]

People have been known to tell people they’d like to “bump their partners off” , kill them, words to that effect...and people have dismissed it.

Some people have tried to hire hitmen to kill their spouse, and have often been given away by the hitman when he’s considered it too evil...that’s why NO hitman would have killed The Bamber family. Even hitmen have morals...

Aw, I dunno.  There are people who would do anything for money, IMO. Not saying I believe there was a hitman in this case, although it wouldn't surprise me if there were.

[APRIL]

He didn't testify. 

You will find nearly all witnesses incl JB were dealt with almost single handedly by DS Jones.  Same officer who was responsible for the silencer.  Same officer who was the only dissenter from day 1.  Same officer who told a Sky drama/docu that he knew JB had committed the killings but he just had to pray something would turn up to prove him right!  And it did turn up by way of JM and the silencer both of which he was closely involved in.

Correction. He was the only named dissenter. It doesn't, for a moment mean there weren't others.

[Vertigo Swirl]

looking forward to replies from Holly to my three posts above....

[Caroline]

No barrier I mean the totality of the physical evidence at soc which shows NB was first shot on the landing stairs and the perp was shooting out of the bedroom onto the landing.

And who's hand was the gun in?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Just a thought, but surely, had Nevill received that horrendous facial injury at the top of the stairs, it would have sent him reeling? Wouldn't there have been a blood trail all the way down the staircase?

Not necessarily.

There was blood on the landing and staircase, of course, but not copious amounts. It depends on where exactly the bullets enter the body....much of Nevill’s bleeding was internal. His throat was filled with it (like Sheila’s was) so although there was blood of Nevill’s upstairs and in the kitchen too, the largest pool was by the side of him when Jeremy shot him in his head. Head wounds always gush out blood.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

What is false?

You claiming DS Jones coerced Jeremy in the interview.

He didn’t at all! Jeremy had his solicitor with him, and DS Jones asked him perfectly reasonable questions. There was no coercion at all. And Jeremy was so arrogant and up himself, he could hardly be coerced.

He simply got tripped up because  he isn’t that bright, and DS Jones was known to be a very intelligent and clever detective.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Not necessarily.

There was blood on the landing and staircase, of course, but not copious amounts. It depends on where exactly the bullets enter the body....much of Nevill’s bleeding was internal. His throat was filled with it (like Sheila’s was) so although there was blood of Nevill’s upstairs and in the kitchen too, the largest pool was by the side of him when Jeremy shit him in his head. Head wounds always gush out blood.

You might want to edit this post.  Just sayin...