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Offline Nicholas

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #135 on: April 21, 2020, 11:44:22 AM »

You need witnesses for any reconstruction, otherwise it’s just assumption.

It’s a pointless exercise, and won’t determine anything

It would be laughed away...

 *%87
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #136 on: April 21, 2020, 11:59:33 AM »
Holly, can you definitively state that it is impossible for Jeremy Bamber to have shot NB from a position above him?  If so, why?  I can think of numerous scenarios which has Bamber towering over Nevill, how would you be able to prove none of them happened using a reconstruction?

But as I keep saying it's not just the trajectories or the casings or some other evidence.  The totality of the physical evidence needs to fit together: blood stains and lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks. Imo professionals will show NB's upstairs gsw's were sustained as I've said.

The layout of the farmhouse, furniture, fixtures, fittings and the physical evidence I've mentioned above narrows it down enormously.  If you consider the JFK shooting you can see this involved a large open area hence so many theories existed as to the perp location.

Once detailed measurements are available re WHF in terms of room sizes, depth of stairs etc it will be possible to produce a 3d model working off hundreds of soc images too.  Exact dimensions of rifle are a known along with victims' height from pathology report and JB's height.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #138 on: April 21, 2020, 12:01:38 PM »
You tell us

I'm not the one saying witnesses are required for a reconstruction.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #139 on: April 21, 2020, 12:03:03 PM »
The totality of the physical evidence needs to fit together:

It already does

Your problem appears to be that your ignoring the psychological aspects
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #140 on: April 21, 2020, 12:04:47 PM »
I'm not the one saying witnesses are required for a reconstruction.

No it appears you’re trying to prove some kind of point in order to reinforce your already flawed understanding of the case, as it appears to me
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #141 on: April 21, 2020, 12:07:00 PM »
Of course it is - there’s no evidence of a ‘stitch up’ nor that he’s a ‘political prisoner’ its propaganda & nothing more

Bamber jumped on the innocence fraud train and it was full steam ahead for a short time

His abuse of others is clear from the start - the police recognised it then as they do now

In the last few decades, researchers have been measuring a cluster of traits ready-made to predict abuse — the Dark Tetrad (formerly Triad), a frankly exploitative, aggressive type marked by four traits: narcissism, best thought of, again, as the drive to feel special; psychopathy, a pattern of remorseless lies and manipulation; Machiavellianism, a cold, chess-playing approach to life and love; and finally, sadism, a troubling tendency to delight in the suffering of others. A quick glance at this cluster is enough to give anyone chills. But some of these traits are patently more dangerous than others.

Bamber’s fraudulent ‘innocence campaign’ has exposed all of the above and his true psychopathic character is there for all to see


I don’t understand how anyone can fall for his lies and nonsense. He’s a diagnosed psychopathic, pathological liar and just uses people. His campaign group seems to change frequently, either when he turns on them and gets nasty, or they start to see through him. I think he’s sucked in a new one now...Yvonne? Forgotten her surname, but it’s in yesterday’s Daily Mirror and I don’t recognise the name — but I only know just a few of the names so she may not be new at all. I thought Trudi Benjamin ran it?

What he does — and it’s mainly women — he pulls them in once they’ve written to him by using subtle superficial charm. Once he’s got them smitten, he plays them against each other. I read on Twitter how women have had raging arguments over him when they’ve discovered the other one has received letters when they haven’t had any from him. He manipulates them, and tells them they’re his BEST friend, then stops writing and they wonder what THEY’VE done! He knows by “taking away” their special privileges (receiving his letters) he’ll play on their mind. It keeps them hooked, and keeps him in CONTROL.

When he’s truly angry when one of them doesn’t take out a £3000 loan for him, such as sweet Daisy, he didn’t say anything by letter, he allowed her to travel god knows how many miles to see him, and then took great delight in telling her to her face “I never liked you anyway!”

That’s the sadism in him. He got great satisfaction from that. And he was telling the truth too — anger always reveals the truth. I don’t think he likes any of his campaigners; he knows they’re “soft” for believing his rubbish, and he probably  secretly despises them on the quiet.

Poor Sheila! No wonder she became unwell...she grew up with June’s coldness and religious mania, and had a brother who was a psychopath and who, I guarantee, said and did things to her to make her feel TERRIBLE. He was more than instrumental in Sheila becoming ill, I truly think that.
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #142 on: April 21, 2020, 12:08:09 PM »
You didn’t answer the question.

I work behind the scenes with numerous other professionals. 
 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #143 on: April 21, 2020, 12:08:32 PM »
I work behind the scenes with numerous other professionals.

I don’t believe you
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #144 on: April 21, 2020, 12:10:25 PM »
But as I keep saying it's not just the trajectories or the casings or some other evidence.  The totality of the physical evidence needs to fit together: blood stains and lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks. Imo professionals will show NB's upstairs gsw's were sustained as I've said.

The layout of the farmhouse, furniture, fixtures, fittings and the physical evidence I've mentioned above narrows it down enormously.  If you consider the JFK shooting you can see this involved a large open area hence so many theories existed as to the perp location.

Once detailed measurements are available re WHF in terms of room sizes, depth of stairs etc it will be possible to produce a 3d model working off hundreds of soc images too.  Exact dimensions of rifle are a known along with victims' height from pathology report and JB's height.

As I keep telling you, it's one persons interpretation of the physical evidence, someone else, may have. another. You don't get to be 'definitive'. You criticise Fletcher for what you believe is a lack of qualifications - what are yours to make these assumptions?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #145 on: April 21, 2020, 12:10:34 PM »
It already does

Your problem appears to be that your ignoring the psychological aspects

To date a prefessional reconstruction hasn't taken place.

This thread has nothing to do with the psychological aspects.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #146 on: April 21, 2020, 12:11:29 PM »
I don’t believe you

Your choice.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Nicholas

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #147 on: April 21, 2020, 12:11:53 PM »

I don’t understand how anyone can fall for his lies and nonsense. He’s a diagnosed psychopathic, pathological liar and just uses people. His campaign group seems to change frequently, either when he turns on them and gets nasty, or they start to see through him. I think he’s sucked in a new one now...Yvonne? Forgotten her surname, but it’s in yesterday’s Daily Mirror and I don’t recognise the name — but I only know just a few of the names so she may not be new at all. I thought Trudi Benjamin ran it?

Yvonne Hartley
Even though I was only 18 at the time, I remember quite clearly the tragedies that occurred at White House Farm from the media coverage the case attracted, although it wasn’t until I watched the television programme “Crimes that shook Britain” about the case that I felt an overwhelming need to write to Jeremy to express my concerns about his wrongful conviction and to offer my support.

It’s quite embarrassing to recall the content of my first letter to Jeremy where I thought I had spotted something previously missed by the Defence, and wrote pages of analysis of how I saw the case from the limited amount of material available on the internet.

http://www.jeremybambertestimony.co.uk/yvonne-hartley
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #148 on: April 21, 2020, 12:13:30 PM »
I work behind the scenes with numerous other professionals.

You have been saying this for the last couple of years and still have nothing to show for it.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: How Did JB Commit The Killings
« Reply #149 on: April 21, 2020, 12:13:37 PM »

I don’t understand how anyone can fall for his lies and nonsense. He’s a diagnosed psychopathic, pathological liar and just uses people. His campaign group seems to change frequently, either when he turns on them and gets nasty, or they start to see through him. I think he’s sucked in a new one now...Yvonne? Forgotten her surname, but it’s in yesterday’s Daily Mirror and I don’t recognise the name — but I only know just a few of the names so she may not be new at all. I thought Trudi Benjamin ran it?

What he does — and it’s mainly women — he pulls them in once they’ve written to him by using subtle superficial charm. Once he’s got them smitten, he plays them against each other. I read on Twitter how women have had raging arguments over him when they’ve discovered the other one has received letters when they haven’t had any from him. He manipulates them, and tells them they’re his BEST friend, then stops writing and they wonder what THEY’VE done! He knows by “taking away” their special privileges (receiving his letters) he’ll play on their mind. It keeps them hooked, and keeps him in CONTROL.

When he’s truly angry when one of them doesn’t take out a £3000 loan for him, such as sweet Daisy, he didn’t say anything by letter, he allowed her to travel god knows how many miles to see him, and then took great delight in telling her to her face “I never liked you anyway!”

That’s the sadism in him. He got great satisfaction from that. And he was telling the truth too — anger always reveals the truth. I don’t think he likes any of his campaigners; he knows they’re “soft” for believing his rubbish, and he probably  secretly despises them on the quiet.

Poor Sheila! No wonder she became unwell...she grew up with June’s coldness and religious mania, and had a brother who was a psychopath and who, I guarantee, said and did things to her to make her feel TERRIBLE. He was more than instrumental in Sheila becoming ill, I truly think that.

What have the above posts got to do with the thread title?

I'll let the above stand but any responses need to go on the appropriate threads.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?