How Did JB Commit The Killings

[Nicholas]

Was Jeremy Bamber ever found inside WHF house — trapped in?

Just asking....

It’s just that not many people break into a property (their own home at that) knowing they’d be trapped inside...

Good point

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It wouldn't require permission from the trustees and/or the Eaton's.  The CCRC have wide reaching powers and if a reconstruction of any type required entry to WHF then the CCRC could order it to happen.

The CCRC would need very good reason to spend money and time on reconstruction

They’d need really good evidence  that the original findings were wrong, and there isn’t any — it’s just wishful thinking on a few supporters of JB who are like dogs with a bone....

There’s NOTHING to even suggest the original findings were wrong: several police officers carried out the experiment and it was all witnessed and logged.

I dare say that the original latch or even the whole window was repaired or replaced after Jeremy Bamber killed his family and it became public knowledge that the window latch was faulty. As if they’d leave the house unsafe for some random burglar to break in! I bet it’s one of the first things they made secure.

 

[Holly Goodhead]

You’re wrong.

Dr Vanezis has officially stated that after having seen the soc, including photos etc, he is adamant Sheila could not possibly have murdered everyone, including beating Nevill to a pulp, and DEFINITELY couldn’t have shot herself.

It’s in CAL’s book and you’ll also find it by Googling... I take it you know how to research?

Whilst off the record snippets to a book author are of interest, they cannot and do not take precedence over official records prepared by the pathologist pre and post trial and his trial testimony none of which were harmful to JB.

The pathologist has always made clear he was unable to conclude murder or suicide.  Its only those here who think they no more than a highly qualified pathologist with years of experience who was a guest on Desert Island discs!

[Nicholas]

The CCRC would need very good reason to spend money and time on reconstruction

They’d need really good evidence  that the original findings were wrong, and there isn’t any — it’s just wishful thinking on a few supporters of JB who are like dogs with a bone....

There’s NOTHING to even suggest the original findings were wrong: several police officers carried out the experiment and it was all witnessed and logged.

I dare say that the original latch or even the whole window was repaired or replaced after Jeremy Bamber killed his family and it became public knowledge that the window latch was faulty. As if they’d leave the house unsafe for some random burglar to break in! I bet it’s one of the first things they made secure.

‘course it was

[Holly Goodhead]

The CCRC would need very good reason to spend money and time on reconstruction

They’d need really good evidence  that the original findings were wrong, and there isn’t any — it’s just wishful thinking on a few supporters of JB who are like dogs with a bone....

There’s NOTHING to even suggest the original findings were wrong: several police officers carried out the experiment and it was all witnessed and logged.

I dare say that the original latch or even the whole window was repaired or replaced after Jeremy Bamber killed his family and it became public knowledge that the window latch was faulty. As if they’d leave the house unsafe for some random burglar to break in! I bet it’s one of the first things they made secure.

The window is certainly nothing I'm talking to forensic scientists about.  It's a sideshow afaic.  In any event the trial judge has already killed it dead:

As the trial Judge said (at page 10E):

"… how he got there and out again whether by the kitchen window or any other means, though of interest, cannot affect the outcome of the case"

It's what's known as a biased judge!

[Holly Goodhead]

The CCRC would need very good reason to spend money and time on reconstruction

They’d need really good evidence  that the original findings were wrong, and there isn’t any — it’s just wishful thinking on a few supporters of JB who are like dogs with a bone....

There’s NOTHING to even suggest the original findings were wrong: several police officers carried out the experiment and it was all witnessed and logged.

I dare say that the original latch or even the whole window was repaired or replaced after Jeremy Bamber killed his family and it became public knowledge that the window latch was faulty. As if they’d leave the house unsafe for some random burglar to break in! I bet it’s one of the first things they made secure.

The reconstruction is one of many additional points to the winning points.

[Nicholas]

The window is certainly nothing I'm talking to forensic scientists about.  It's a sideshow afaic.  In any event the trial judge has already killed it dead:

As the trial Judge said (at page 10E):

"… how he got there and out again whether by the kitchen window or any other means, though of interest, cannot affect the outcome of the case"

It's what's known as a biased judge!

There’s been no evidence whatsoever  (for 35 year)  to show the judge was ‘bias’ Holly

[Nicholas]

The reconstruction is one of many additional points to the winning points.

?

Are these imaginary ‘winning points’ your focus & main goal Holy ?

[Nicholas]

Whilst off the record snippets to a book author are of interest, they cannot and do not take precedence over official records prepared by the pathologist pre and post trial and his trial testimony none of which were harmful to JB.

The pathologist has always made clear he was unable to conclude murder or suicide.  Its only those here who think they no more than a highly qualified pathologist with years of experience who was a guest on Desert Island discs!

Who specifically are you referring to ?

[barrier]

Yes, all locked and/or bolted from inside, with keys still in place.

Is that a given,as per crime scene report,pictures etc?

[Caroline]

Whilst off the record snippets to a book author are of interest, they cannot and do not take precedence over official records prepared by the pathologist pre and post trial and his trial testimony none of which were harmful to JB.

The pathologist has always made clear he was unable to conclude murder or suicide.  Its only those here who think they no more than a highly qualified pathologist with years of experience who was a guest on Desert Island discs!

Oh Holly that's just ignoring things you don't want to hear. His statement etc. were made over 35 years ago and he's had time to reflect, his opinion on the subjects DOES matter and any new trial would include it.

[barrier]

The reconstruction is one of many additional points to the winning points.

Is that your opinion or one that Bamber's legal team is pushing?

[Caroline]

Yes, all locked and/or bolted from inside, with keys still in place.

Yes they were but the bathroom window lock was found to be open with no reason for it to have been. No one admitted to opening it or closing it.

[Caroline]

The reconstruction is one of many additional points to the winning points.

It's just an idea you dreamt up and has no official bearing.

[barrier]

The main front door was opened by APS Manners and he mentions no bolts, just a 'small flat knob' which he turned to unlock the door. [w/s 23/09/85]

Wheres that to G, please.,can't find it.
So going by that its possible Bamber could have left by that door.
Parallels to another case, why use a window when a perfectly operational door is available.