Jeremy Bamber and Heroin

[Nicholas]

“Sitting beside him was Angela Greaves, Virginia’s older sister. A beautician six years Jeremys senior, ‘Anji’ had quickly grown close to Jeremy following his visits with Virginia: ‘The poor chap was on Valium and he was drinking. He had nobody to turn to. His relatives were fighting over everything. It was awful, bloody awful’ Anji later told the Sun that she and Jeremy had become lovers before his arrest and it was their affair, rather than with her sister, that had led to Julie being so inflamed with jealousy that she named him as the murderer.”
“Regardless of what lay behind Julies motivations to go to the police, Anji was there to meet Jeremy upon his release.”

(Courtesy of Carol Ann Lee from her book, ‘The Murders at White House Farm’)
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Rj14BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA317&lpg=PA317&dq=the+sun+anji+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=h8PnNHTkTl&sig=ACfU3U1NpuMY9WW_GJ0UKEtiEAeZmVwONg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwics4rWi4LpAhWEoFwKHYIID8oQ6AEwBHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20sun%20anji%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false

Would JM have known about Anji ?

Had Anji been led to believe what she told the Sun journalist by Bamber?

[Nicholas]

According to Scott Lomax,

“Mugford was unsurprisingly deeply hurt and upset by the revelation and her feelings were not improved when Bamber told her the relationship was over. The following morning Mugford visited the police station to make her statement...”

“The deterioration in the couple’s relationship, along with the feeling of rejection and humiliation resulting from the break up, is certainly a point upon which great emphasis should be placed”

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=H8U7AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT137&lpg=PT137&dq=virginia+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=E-TGUM2djS&sig=ACfU3U3FZgJv7Og2r4LmUMQBK5dMdKTObQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz2Me_gILpAhWKbsAKHYiEBsAQ6AEwEXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=virginia%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false

These are Scott Lomax’s misogynistic views and aren’t based on the reality of the situation JM found herself in

(Click on the link above to read more - Lomax states, “For example a man might make several small inconsequential remarks to his partner how he would like someone dead and how he hates that individual” )

[Caroline]

These are Scott Lomax’s misogynistic views and aren’t based on the reality of the situation JM found herself in

(Click on the link above to read more - Lomax states, “For example a man might make several small inconsequential remarks to his partner how he would like someone dead and how he hates that individual” )

The Lomax book seems to be from the. mind of Bamber.

[Nicholas]

The Lomax book seems to be from the. mind of Bamber.

And the mind of Lomax

Lots of people brought into Lomax’s BS

“The deterioration in the couple’s relationship, along with the feeling of rejection and humiliation resulting from the break up, is certainly a point upon which great emphasis should be placed”

and a few still do 

What’s Lomax hiding I wonder ?

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Mar 22
Life is too short to argue with idiots, so I am just blocking them from now on if they send me their nonsense.
12:46 PM · Mar 22, 2020·Twitter for iPad

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
It seems more people are wanting to learn the facts rather than the myths of this case #JeremyBamber #WhiteHouseFarm

[Caroline]

And the mind of Lomax

Lots of people brought into Lomax’s BS

“The deterioration in the couple’s relationship, along with the feeling of rejection and humiliation resulting from the break up, is certainly a point upon which great emphasis should be placed”

and a few still do 

What’s Lomax hiding I wonder ?

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Mar 22
Life is too short to argue with idiots, so I am just blocking them from now on if they send me their nonsense.
12:46 PM · Mar 22, 2020·Twitter for iPad

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
It seems more people are wanting to learn the facts rather than the myths of this case #JeremyBamber #WhiteHouseFarm

Well, I can understand how people might want to leave their involvement with Bamber behind because there are some really shitty individuals attracted to the subject. However, my own experience of SL was that when I aksed him a question in respect to a claim made in his book, he wasn't able to back it up and referred me to the CT.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

That was Julie Spy.

Julie Spy?

Was that the name of his last Mug?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

When was Bamber ‘having gay sex’ with Bretts friend?

Thought he was planning on coming back from Amsterdam and moving back in with SF?

Why was Angie Grieve named as his girlfriend by the media when he was on trial? How did they meet?


How many girlfriends/boyfriends did he have at this time?


And why did he give SF the fake Cartier watch if he was dating JM and/or Angie & Bretts friend? Why didn’t he give it to JM or Angie?

Wasn’t there also a women in France when he went camping or caravanning ?

Jeremy had a gay relationship with a Kiwi when he went to NZ. It was intense and lasted some time, but they broke up for some reason. Jeremy’s gay lover’s friend was Brett, who’s also gay, and that was how Jeremy and Brett met. They then struck up a friendship, and Brett has since inferred that they had a sexual relationship too.

Jeremy admitted to Julie Mugford that he had been in a gay relationship in the past, but I’m not sure if he was referring to the Kiwi or another. He was known to be very promiscuous, and as he’s a proven liar, I suspect he had far more than just one gay affair. Julie and Brett were jealous of each other, so it doesn’t take much nous to guess he and Jeremy were having sex behind Julie’s back. She said how she suspected them of as much, and noticed how they  caressed each other and Jeremy would rub his fingers through Brett’s hair as he laid his head on his lap. C’mon, we all know these things, don’t we...you can tell.

I didn’t read that he and SF were getting back together, though why he gave her a Cartier watch (albeit fake), is anyone’s guess. Maybe he liked to keep lovers on the back burner...

I don’t know where Angie sprung up from, but it appears they may have met just prior to his arrest, or maybe she was another sympathiser and wrote to him on remand.

From what I can conclude, despite him having various women dotted around, including Brett, his dream was to move to NZ or Australia...so none of these women were permanent fixtures as far as he was concerned. I suspect he’d have got as much money from the estate as possible after selling up, stayed a while in London doing the playboy thing while creaming off the income from the caravan park, then shot off to Australia with Brett where they have a huge gay scene out there and could have had men galore without being talk of the village in Essex.

Oh, the woman in France was older than him (early 30s) with a body like an 18-year-old according to Brett, and she just wanted sex. Possibly a bored housewife of an older businessman and fancied some nooky. JB obliged, obviously, as she footed the bill for their expensive lunches/dinners and Champagne. Wonder what she’d have thought had she known those same vile fingers poring over her body had shot dead five members of his family, including two six-year-old boys just WEEKS before?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Was he also linked to Virginia, Anji’s sister?


Found this

“Summer 1984 – Jeremy began his relationship with Julie on Boxing Day 1983 as she testified in her undisclosed statement dated the 8th and 9th of September 1985. Whilst Julie was in France on a working holiday in the summer of 1984, sharing a two-man tent with a male co-worker, Jeremy slept with Liz Rimmington who Julie had considered to be one of her best friends. In her witness statement dated 8th September 1985, Liz confirmed this saying that she and Jeremy ‘did have intercourse’ after getting drunk. It is unknown exactly when Julie found out about this but it is likely to have been in September 1984. Liz gave evidence that[1]: “I had purposely stayed away from Julie because I felt guilty about what had happened between Jeremy and myself.” However, after bumping into Julie and Jeremy in August 1984 the girls began going out together a lot over the next four weeks. Following a night out, Liz telephoned Julie the next day and Jeremy answered the phone saying Julie didn’t want to speak to her or see her any more[2] without giving any reason, which baffled Liz. Had Jeremy told Julie about his one-night stand with Liz?

“Wednesday 4 September 1985 – Jeremy took Julie to a café close to Sheila’s apartment shortly before 4pm and gave her a cheque for £400 to pay for a holiday with Liz Rimmington[6]. He then discussed their relationship, and after his arrest Julie banked this cheque along with another from Jeremy. On returning to Sheila’s apartment, Jeremy received a telephone call from another girl he’d been seeing called Virginia Greaves. In fury, Julie ran into the bedroom, picked up a wooden Chinese trick box that belonged to Jeremy and threw it into a mirror, smashing it into pieces. Brett Collins also witnessed this from the next room in the apartment.

https://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/julie-mugford-volunteer-witness

Here http://youknowwhokilledyoudontyou.blogspot.com/2011/02/family-and-others-bambers-nevill-ralph.html

Under the header, Jeremy’s Friends

‘Virginia Greaves (ex-girlfriend).
Anji Greaves (Virginia's sister, and later Jeremy's girlfriend).
(5 others listed - JM, BC, SF, MM & CM)

According to Scott Lomax,

“Mugford was unsurprisingly deeply hurt and upset by the revelation and her feelings were not improved when Bamber told her the relationship was over. The following morning Mugford visited the police station to make her statement...”

“The deterioration in the couple’s relationship, along with the feeling of rejection and humiliation resulting from the break up, is certainly a point upon which great emphasis should be placed”

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=H8U7AwAAQBAJ&pg=PT137&lpg=PT137&dq=virginia+greaves+jeremy+bamber&source=bl&ots=E-TGUM2djS&sig=ACfU3U3FZgJv7Og2r4LmUMQBK5dMdKTObQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz2Me_gILpAhWKbsAKHYiEBsAQ6AEwEXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=virginia%20greaves%20jeremy%20bamber&f=false

“In fury, Julie picked up a wooden Chinese trick box”



I bet that wooden trick box is the one he somehow got to Aunt Agatha.

Maybe some twit dropped it off to her, posing as a policeman...


Jeremy was a compulsive liar, and would make out it belonged to his grandmother and was “special to him”

I bet that box was actually Sheila’s.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

So Brett Collins got his solicitor & apparently Anji Greaves approached Sir David Napley?

Is that right!

Brett Collins didn’t know any solicitors in this country. He just looked for one to try and help JB as at that time he wanted to believe he was innocent.

JB, being a grandiose psychopath, insisted he wanted the BEST. The law society refused saying Legal Aid would not pay the sort of money Sir David Napley cost. However, SDN was approached and although he refused to represent him, he suggested a colleague who might have a crack at it and who was excellent too.

Brett went back to NZ before the trial — he didn’t want to know Jeremy anymore — but he had helped in the very beginning.

In the event, JB had a brilliant barrister — one of the BEST.

AND still he lost and was found guilty....😌

[Nicholas]

Well, I can understand how people might want to leave their involvement with Bamber behind because there are some really shitty individuals attracted to the subject. However, my own experience of SL was that when I aksed him a question in respect to a claim made in his book, he wasn't able to back it up and referred me to the CT.

This is highly suspicious behaviour

If Scott Lomax knew the Bamber case as he makes out, and is still today promoting his book and the facts and myths line, why would he pass anyone on to the CT ?

Pass them on to speak to who; Poppy Ann Miller? Trudi Benjamin? Barbara De’Ath?

Who makes up the CT anyway? 

How many of them are there?

[Caroline]

This is highly suspicious behaviour

If Scott Lomax knew the Bamber case as he makes out, and is still today promoting his book and the facts and myths line, why would he pass anyone on to the CT ?

Pass them on to speak to who; Poppy Ann Miller? Trudi Benjamin? Barbara De’Ath?

Who makes up the CT anyway? 

How many of them are there?

This was pre TB - I have no idea who made up the band back then but when I asked them a couple of questions via email, they referred me to Bamber. Which is why I think the Lomax book it from the mind of Bamber - all roads lead back to him.

[Nicholas]

This was pre TB - I have no idea who made up the band back then but when I asked them a couple of questions via email, they referred me to Bamber. Which is why I think the Lomax book it from the mind of Bamber - all roads lead back to him.

Let’s hope the CPS consider the narrative given to Lomax - though I still suspect he’s put his own slant on some aspects of the case and embellished others etc

Don’t trust the man myself

[Nicholas]

Jeremy had a gay relationship with a Kiwi when he went to NZ. It was intense and lasted some time, but they broke up for some reason. Jeremy’s gay lover’s friend was Brett, who’s also gay, and that was how Jeremy and Brett met. They then struck up a friendship, and Brett has since inferred that they had a sexual relationship too.

Jeremy admitted to Julie Mugford that he had been in a gay relationship in the past, but I’m not sure if he was referring to the Kiwi or another. He was known to be very promiscuous, and as he’s a proven liar, I suspect he had far more than just one gay affair. Julie and Brett were jealous of each other, so it doesn’t take much nous to guess he and Jeremy were having sex behind Julie’s back. She said how she suspected them of as much, and noticed how they  caressed each other and Jeremy would rub his fingers through Brett’s hair as he laid his head on his lap. C’mon, we all know these things, don’t we...you can tell.

I didn’t read that he and SF were getting back together, though why he gave her a Cartier watch (albeit fake), is anyone’s guess. Maybe he liked to keep lovers on the back burner...

I don’t know where Angie sprung up from, but it appears they may have met just prior to his arrest, or maybe she was another sympathiser and wrote to him on remand.

From what I can conclude, despite him having various women dotted around, including Brett, his dream was to move to NZ or Australia...so none of these women were permanent fixtures as far as he was concerned. I suspect he’d have got as much money from the estate as possible after selling up, stayed a while in London doing the playboy thing while creaming off the income from the caravan park, then shot off to Australia with Brett where they have a huge gay scene out there and could have had men galore without being talk of the village in Essex.

Oh, the woman in France was older than him (early 30s) with a body like an 18-year-old according to Brett, and she just wanted sex. Possibly a bored housewife of an older businessman and fancied some nooky. JB obliged, obviously, as she footed the bill for their expensive lunches/dinners and Champagne. Wonder what she’d have thought had she known those same vile fingers poring over her body had shot dead five members of his family, including two six-year-old boys just WEEKS before?

Anji/Angie (Angela) met Bamber before he was remanded - we’ve not yet established how, when and where

Has the women in France been tracked down or ever come forward & would the police have this intelligence ?

Explains a lot & why JM appears to have physically distanced herself from him

Julie Mugford stated,
”I’d been unable to make love to him or respond to him in anyway”

[Nicholas]

I don’t know where Angie sprung up from, but it appears they may have met just prior to his arrest, or maybe she was another sympathiser and wrote to him on remand.

Why does it appear his supporters and CT don’t know the answer to this ?

[APRIL]

Why does it appear his supporters and CT don’t know the answer to this ?

We're back to timings again. From the murders in August, including the funerals, his weekends away and his holidays, to his arrest in September, he did pretty well to meet and bed two sisters, one of whom seemed to think she was in an ongoing relationship with him.