Jeremy Bamber and Heroin

[Nicholas]

We're back to timings again. From the murders in August, including the funerals, his weekends away and his holidays, to his arrest in September, he did pretty well to meet and bed two sisters, one of whom seemed to think she was in an ongoing relationship with him.

Has anyone tallied any of this up?

Jeremy had a gay relationship with a Kiwi when he went to NZ.
Jeremy’s gay lover’s friend was Brett
I didn’t read that he and SF were getting back together
I don’t know where Angie sprung up from
the woman in France

[Nicholas]

“In fury, Julie picked up a wooden Chinese trick box”



I bet that wooden trick box is the one he somehow got to Aunt Agatha.

Maybe some twit dropped it off to her, posing as a policeman...


Jeremy was a compulsive liar, and would make out it belonged to his grandmother and was “special to him”

I bet that box was actually Sheila’s.

Me too

Did CC ever refer to it in his book ?

Could CC have gifted it to SC ?

The CT have no idea who this box originally belonged to nor it appears does Aunt Agatha ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Anji/Angie (Angela) met Bamber before he was remanded - we’ve not yet established how, when and where

Has the women in France been tracked down or ever come forward & would the police have this intelligence ?

Explains a lot & why JM appears to have physically distanced herself from him

It’s no wonder Julie Mugford couldn’t bear his hands on her after realising he’d shot dead his family. It probably also repelled her seeing him flirt with Brett. You’re right: it’s so telling that Julie couldn’t bear him near her...it’s also telling that he was even in the mood when most people would be grief stricken ...

I’ve no idea if the woman he met in France was ever traced, but I doubt he’d have told her he’d killed all his family just a few weeks previously so it’s unlikely the police would have been bothered to interview her — that’s assuming she was English. She may not have been had a good grasp of the English language if she wasn’t British.

[Nicholas]

It’s no wonder Julie Mugford couldn’t bear his hands on her after realising he’d shot dead his family. It probably also repelled her seeing him flirt with Brett. You’re right: it’s so telling that Julie couldn’t bear him near her...it’s also telling that he was even in the mood when most people would be grief stricken ...

I’ve no idea if the woman he met in France was ever traced, but I doubt he’d have told her he’d killed all his family just a few weeks previously so it’s unlikely the police would have been bothered to interview her — that’s assuming she was English. She may not have been had a good grasp of the English language if she wasn’t British.

Some supporters have wrongly claimed over the years they were still intimidate - clearly they weren’t.

Though suspect Bamber told them otherwise and they believed his words over the women he was quite obviously abusing

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Me too

Did CC ever refer to it in his book ?

Could CC have gifted it to SC ?

The CT have no idea who this box originally belonged to nor it appears does Aunt Agatha ?

Well, without wishing to sound insulting, seeing the weird nonsense all his team spout — and having seen their photos on Twitter — one can understand why they’re so subservient...

Even The Sun newspaper said how disgusting they all are on every level.

Of course, it’s sad in a way. For a woman to be SO desperate that she’ll run around like a headless chicken to meet the demands of a revolting mass murderer shows how dreadfully lonely they must be, and how they’re prepared to believe any old BS for a few crumbs of attention.

Of course that box was Sheila’s. Men wouldn’t have one. He’s a con artist....giving away fake Cartier watches, boxes he stole from his dead sister....he’s twisted, vile and evil. And he uses everyone, but some people are too thick, gullible or naive to realise it.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Some supporters have wrongly claimed over the years they were still intimidate - clearly they weren’t.

Though suspect Bamber told them otherwise and they believed his words over the women he was quite obviously abusing

I bet he laughs hs head off when he reads their letters of undying devotion: he’s actually taking part of their lives too — they just don’t realise it.

Some of these women spend ALL day, and have done for YEARS, thinking about him, talking about him, trying to be his rescuer, while he’s cosying up with his latest inmate lover, watching TV, giggling, stuffing his face with all the sweets he buys with the money they send him...I actually think he quite enjoys his life in a strange way.  He’s institutionalised now and has been for decades. His “normal” is prison.

[Nicholas]

Well, without wishing to sound insulting, seeing the weird nonsense all his team spout — and having seen their photos on Twitter — one can understand why they’re so subservient...

Even The Sun newspaper said how disgusting they all are on every level.

Of course, it’s sad in a way. For a woman to be SO desperate that she’ll run around like a headless chicken to meet the demands of a revolting mass murderer shows how dreadfully lonely they must be, and how they’re prepared to believe any old BS for a few crumbs of attention.

Of course that box was Sheila’s. Men wouldn’t have one. He’s a con artist....giving away fake Cartier watches, boxes he stole from his dead sister....he’s twisted, vile and evil. And he uses everyone, but some people are too thick, gullible or naive to realise it.

That box clearly wasn’t his he stole it from his sister as you say - he took it and kept it as a trophie

“Killers like to take trophies and souvenirs from their victims. Keeping some memento — a lock of hair, jewelry, newspaper clips of the crime — helps prolong, even nourish, their fantasy of the crime. In my research, I’ve seen this happen again and again.
http://mindhuntersinc.com/why-killers-take-trophies/

[Nicholas]

Well, without wishing to sound insulting, seeing the weird nonsense all his team spout — and having seen their photos on Twitter — one can understand why they’re so subservient...

Even The Sun newspaper said how disgusting they all are on every level.

Of course, it’s sad in a way. For a woman to be SO desperate that she’ll run around like a headless chicken to meet the demands of a revolting mass murderer shows how dreadfully lonely they must be, and how they’re prepared to believe any old BS for a few crumbs of attention.

Of course that box was Sheila’s. Men wouldn’t have one. He’s a con artist....giving away fake Cartier watches, boxes he stole from his dead sister....he’s twisted, vile and evil. And he uses everyone, but some people are too thick, gullible or naive to realise it.

You’re not saying anything we haven’t seen and heard before 

[Nicholas]

I bet he laughs hs head off when he reads their letters of undying devotion: he’s actually taking part of their lives too — they just don’t realise it.

Some of these women spend ALL day, and have done for YEARS, thinking about him, talking about him, trying to be his rescuer, while he’s cosying up with his latest inmate lover, watching TV, giggling, stuffing his face with all the sweets he buys with the money they send him...I actually think he quite enjoys his life in a strange way.  He’s institutionalised now and has been for decades. His “normal” is prison.

Btw David Hender here http://davidhender.life/ who sent Bamber £200 appears to also be supporting David Barnett ?

Might be him here https://www.realitytitbit.com/netflix-reality-shows/i-am-a-killer-will-david-barnett-ever-be-released-from-prison-fans-think-hes-not-responsible

Who’s David Hender?

[Nicholas]

That box clearly wasn’t his he stole it from his sister as you say - he took it and kept it as a trophie

“Killers like to take trophies and souvenirs from their victims. Keeping some memento — a lock of hair, jewelry, newspaper clips of the crime — helps prolong, even nourish, their fantasy of the crime. In my research, I’ve seen this happen again and again.
http://mindhuntersinc.com/why-killers-take-trophies/

“Between crimes — often while targeting future victims — they’ll pull out their trophies and just sit back in their La-Z Boy chairs and relive the crime over and over in their minds.

What’s interesting is that they often give the souvenir — particularly jewelry — to a family member or significant other. The recipient could be the wife or a girlfriend who was causing the subject grief at the time of the crime or was involved in a confrontation with him”


Would be interested to know if Aunt Agatha was ever involved in ‘a confrontation with’ Bamber

Am guessing the answer is yes & it’s why they are no longer in direct contact ?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

That box clearly wasn’t his he stole it from his sister as you say - he took it and kept it as a trophie

“Killers like to take trophies and souvenirs from their victims. Keeping some memento — a lock of hair, jewelry, newspaper clips of the crime — helps prolong, even nourish, their fantasy of the crime. In my research, I’ve seen this happen again and again.
http://mindhuntersinc.com/why-killers-take-trophies/

Oh, absolutely!

He’s demonstrated how he likes to have things such as locks of hair, and keeping that box of Sheila’s which was probably given to HER but Grannie Bamber gave him a kick. He stole it because he was jealous, and it was also part of Sheila. He would have got excitement touching it knowing Sheila’s beautiful fingers had touched it, and then he’d replay the murders through his mind and get a massive surge of excitement reliving it in his mind.

Who knows what warped thoughts went through his mind about a Sheila long before he killed her? She was stunningly beautiful and although there’s not been any speculation that he attempted to sexually assault her, she did seem scared of him in later years and avoided him.

I also read (though aim not sure it’s correct as it’s not an official source), that Sheila had no knickers on when she was killed. As all women know, you always wear knickers when you’re menstruating, and Sheila had put to soak her worn ones she’d worn that day in a bucket, ready to wash the next day. When getting ready for bed she’d have put on clean knickers. So that’s weird...

And before some delusional jumps on that and comes out with the nonsense about ritual cleansing, no-one puts their watch back on to kill themselves

Now were any of Sheila’s clothes found anywhere in the house, including the washing machine, that were sodden with blood and gsr...

[Nicholas]

“Sense of ‘ownership’

When they finally commit a crime, it’s like they have a sense of ownership. It’s an accomplishment and they feel so good about what they’ve done that they have to keep it going, like some athlete in his 40s who’s always pulling out an old scrapbook.

Many of us get trophies for our accomplishments. For killers, taking souvenirs extends the fantasy into that realm. My accomplishment may be solving a case. I get a plaque or some kudos; their accomplishment is perpetrating a crime. I get to put the plaque up on the wall of my den. They get to take something from the victim to give to the girlfriend, or put up in the attic.

It’s surprising how many killers return not just to the gravesite but to the scene of the crime. And some killers — the more organized or premeditated type — sometimes even inject themselves into the police investigation to provide bogus information. They do it for different reasons. They may want to find out where the investigation is headed or look for cues that it’s progressing along nicely because, naturally, they’re concerned about that.

[Nicholas]

“Sense of ‘ownership’

When they finally commit a crime, it’s like they have a sense of ownership. It’s an accomplishment and they feel so good about what they’ve done that they have to keep it going, like some athlete in his 40s who’s always pulling out an old scrapbook.

Many of us get trophies for our accomplishments. For killers, taking souvenirs extends the fantasy into that realm. My accomplishment may be solving a case. I get a plaque or some kudos; their accomplishment is perpetrating a crime. I get to put the plaque up on the wall of my den. They get to take something from the victim to give to the girlfriend, or put up in the attic.

It’s surprising how many killers return not just to the gravesite but to the scene of the crime. And some killers — the more organized or premeditated type — sometimes even inject themselves into the police investigation to provide bogus information. They do it for different reasons. They may want to find out where the investigation is headed or look for cues that it’s progressing along nicely because, naturally, they’re concerned about that.

Bamber ‘visits’ indirectly through people like Trudi Benjamin 

Did she send him photos of ‘her graveside visit’ and did the prison allow them?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Btw David Hender here http://davidhender.life/ who sent Bamber £200 appears to also be supporting David Barnett ?

Might be him here https://www.realitytitbit.com/netflix-reality-shows/i-am-a-killer-will-david-barnett-ever-be-released-from-prison-fans-think-hes-not-responsible

Who is this David Hender,  Nicholas?


Was he in prison with JB?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Would he have tried it before purchasing it ?

No, not if he wasn’t a heroin addict, Nicholas