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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #150 on: May 15, 2020, 12:15:47 PM »
Adjourned until 29th May

Simon Hattenstone
@shattenstone
Jeremy Bamber's court hearing for disclosure of vital docs has been adjourned till May 29. Attached are some of the docs that were passed by Essex police officers to Carol Ann Lee, the author who contributed to the recent TV drama, but not disclosed to Bamber.


https://mobile.twitter.com/shattenstone/status/1256170632670261248

Simon Hattenstone’s tweet included a screenshot of Carol Ann Lee’s instagram account

Found it interesting how he chose to ignore the bullying and abuse Carol Ann Lee received from Bamber supporters

Would Judge Knowles have been made aware of these facts ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #151 on: May 22, 2020, 03:31:41 AM »
This is embarrassing

Mark Newby
The jury only heard of the two shots, which was relied upon by the crown to support their case, but this wasn’t the whole picture. It represents yet another significant aspect to this case which supports Jeremy Bamber and undermines this conviction.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/11/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-say-new-evidence-undermines-conviction

Do the CPS & Essex police have a copy of Mike Tesko’s 6th Sept 2009 letter http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=212.msg573829#msg573829

Bamber telling Mike Tescowski in 2009 he liked “his arguments” re “Davidson’s message/note/pocket book entries”

“I have made them simple and included them in the bundle of docs sent to my lawyers. It’s confirmation that two bodies were found in the kitchen”

And are Mark Newby and Bamber’s CT aware the ‘two bodies’ in the kitchen BS was Mike Tesco’s idea NOT Bamber’s
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #152 on: May 22, 2020, 05:08:39 PM »
Do the CPS & Essex police have a copy of Mike Tesko’s 6th Sept 2009 letter http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=212.msg573829#msg573829

And are Mark Newby and Bamber’s CT aware the ‘two bodies’ in the kitchen BS was Mike Tesco’s idea NOT Bamber’s


Why does Bamber come out with such ludicrous lies that can so easily be disproved?

Is he stupid, do you think?

Or is he just desperate to clutch onto any weak straw in the hope someone in authority may become confused?
Seeking Justice for June & Nevill Bamber, Sheila Caffell & her two six-year-old twin boys who were shot dead in their heads by Psychopath, JEREMY BAMBER who must NEVER be released.

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #153 on: May 30, 2020, 11:48:31 AM »
Tru Benjamin
@tru68
Good luck to #JeremyBamber and his legal team who are seeking permission for judicial review in a renewed oral application in Leeds Administrative Court tomorrow against the CPS refusal to disclose vital evidence in his case
#Justice

https://twitter.com/tru68/status/125582097816214323


That account doesn’t exist

https://mobile.twitter.com/TruTruThinks/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #154 on: September 17, 2020, 12:05:44 PM »
It seems the much talked about judicial review has already failed on the papers. I was foolish enough to gain the probably deliberately intended false impression that permission for the JR had already been granted and the hearing they were waiting for was the JR itself, not a renewal hearing.   

Apparently CAL has been given files that Bamber hasn't seen and he thinks he has a right to nitpick for typos to exploit no matter how irrelevant a fishing expedition it is.

We shall see.


Tru Benjamin
@tru68
Good luck to #JeremyBamber and his legal team who are seeking permission for judicial review in a renewed oral application in Leeds Administrative Court tomorrow against the CPS refusal to disclose vital evidence in his case
#Justice

https://twitter.com/tru68/status/125582097816214323

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/apr/30/jeremy-bamber-lawyers-seek-review-of-cps-refusal-to-disclose-evidence


Mark Newby a solicitor advocate at Quality Solicitors Jordans, which represents Bamber, said: “Since proceedings were issued it came to our attention that the author of the book the ITV drama was based upon appears to have received material directly from the police.

“It cannot be right that an author has been given material that Mr Bamber’s defence team have not seen, particularly in light of the persistent refusal by the CPS to disclose specific material we have been asking for. It raises the question of whether a work of fiction is more important than justice.”

Bamber, speaking from Wakefield prison, told the Guardian: “It is disgusting that a third party was provided with documents and sensitive photographs when Essex police and the CPS have been unwilling to hand over material to our own forensic experts to prove that two silencers were recovered from the scene.

“Despite court orders being in place for them to make full disclosure to us, which they deliberately chose to ignore, when Carol Ann Lee requested material she was given it without a second thought. Where is my justice?”

A spokesperson for Essex police said: “We are aware of the claim made by Jeremy Bamber and can confirm that this matter forms part of an ongoing judicial review. As this matter is therefore the subject of a forthcoming legal hearing it would not be appropriate for us to comment further.”


“In July, the Ministry of Justice announced that a panel of experts, chaired by Lord Edward Faulks QC, would undertake an independent review of administrative law to ascertain whether there is a need to reform judicial review.

The review would deliver on a manifesto commitment to ensure that judicial review processes was ‘not open to abuse and delay’.

https://www.thejusticegap.com/government-inquiry-into-judicial-review-not-credible/
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Offline barrier

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #155 on: October 12, 2020, 09:25:23 PM »
Something a little bit new.

Murderer Jeremy Bamber, 59, launches High Court legal challenge over refusal by prison service to downgrade him from maximum security Category A status


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8831473/Killer-Jeremy-Bamber-legal-challenge-prison-service-refuses-maximum-security.html
 When the legend becomes fact,print the legend.

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #156 on: October 12, 2020, 09:34:25 PM »
Something a little bit new.

Murderer Jeremy Bamber, 59, launches High Court legal challenge over refusal by prison service to downgrade him from maximum security Category A status


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8831473/Killer-Jeremy-Bamber-legal-challenge-prison-service-refuses-maximum-security.html

Who’s representing him - Dean Kingham and Matt Stanbury ?

Britain’s most notorious prisoner launches legal challenge to have parole hearing held in public
One of Britain’s most notorious prisoners has begun a legal action challenging the ban preventing parole hearings being held in public. Charles Salvador, previously known as Charles Bronson, has been in prison for most of the last 45 years and wants to waive his right to privacy and for his next parole hearing to be held in ‘the full public glare’.

Salvador’s legal team argues that the parole board rules’ blanket ban on public hearings is unlawful and, if successful, the challenge would force the government to change the regime. In particular, they argue that Parole Board Rules 2019, rule 15(3) requiring parole board hearings to be held in private offends the well-established principle of open justice as well as being in breach of the article six right to a fair and public hearing.

‘It is hoped that by providing Charles Salvador with the right to apply for a public parole hearing the public can gain a proper understanding of the parole process and it will push the secretary of state for justice to fully respect the independence of the Parole Board,’ comments his solicitor Dean Kingham of Swain and Co Solicitors.

The challenge is being brought by the same legal team, Dean Kingham together with barrister Matt Stanbury of Garden Court North, behind the recent challenge over concerns about the independence of the Criminal Cases Review Commission (the Gary Warner case – as reported on the Justice Gap here).
https://www.thejusticegap.com/britains-most-notorious-prisoner-launches-legal-challenge-to-have-parole-hearing-held-in-public/

Matt Stanbury & Mark Newby

Current and future claimants will likely find that their prospects of success are not improved in any substantial way by this decision
https://www.thejusticegap.com/not-innocent-enough-to-be-compensated/

dean kingham
@deankingham
A very good 2018 for the @SwainSolicitors prison law team. Highlights include cat a downgrades, convictions quashed, innocent people released by the Parole Board, accused individuals found not guilty. 2019 will be better. I have a feeling Bamber and Stone will have good years.
1:04 AM · Jan 1, 2019·Twitter for iPhone

https://mobile.twitter.com/deankingham/status/1079906216472653824
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #157 on: October 13, 2020, 01:18:48 AM »
Mr Stanbury said an independent psychologist's report, commissioned by Bamber's solicitors, concluded he had met the test for downgrading a Category A prisoner - considered the most dangerous to the public - and that these conditions were "no longer necessary" for managing him”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-54512137

Wonder if the ‘independent’ psychologist is Ruth Tully or someone from Tully forensics?

Dean Kingham, Head of Prison Law, Public Law and Crime, Swain & Co. Parole Board Lead for the Association of Prison Lawyers (APL):
“Swain and Co specialise in dealing with prisoners stuck in the system, high profile, and complex cases. We instruct psychologists regularly and require forensic psychologists at the forefront of their profession. We have always found Tully Forensic Psychology to be leaders in the world of forensic psychology. The team is lead by Dr Ruth Tully, whom has developed psychological research applicable to prisoners and rehabilitation. The reports are of great assistance to us in arguing that prisoners should move through the system, progress to open conditions, or be released. The team often face very probing questions from The Parole Board and are able to explain and develop the evidence within their reports extremely well. We have found the assessments and reports to be key components in arguing clients’ applications to The Parole Board. They are leaders in the world of forensic psychology.

https://tullyforensicpsychology.com/testimonials/

“On Monday 10th December, I attended the House of Commons at the Progressing Prisoners Maintaining Innocence (PPMI) Annual Lecture, ‘Is the Parole Process Fit for Purpose? Releasing Safe Individuals Promptly.’ This event was attended by guest speakers, Dean Kingham, Head of Prison and Public Law at Swain & Co, Ruth Tully, forensic psychologist from Tully Forensic Psychology and two ex-prisoners, Chris and Cookie.
It was a thought-provoking evening and it was great to meet so many passionate people who work helping those wrongly convicted, and as well many inspiring families who have been gravely affected by miscarriages of justice.
Dean Kingham was the first to answer the ever-important question, ‘Is the Parole Process Fit for Purpose?’ Dean was instructed by Mr Worboys in the Judicial Review, is in front of the parole board daily at oral hearings, and has been involved in many poignant cases in the past few years, namely The Queen (on the Application of Wakenshaw) v The Secretary of State for Justice, where the High Court made a declaration that the Justice Minister had interfered with the independence of the parole board.   This is a clear example of how the Justice Minister has no respect for constitutional values that are deep rooted in this society, namely the doctrine of the separation of powers and Dicey’s Rule of Law.
Dean stated in reply to the question,
“It is not about whether the parole board is fit for purpose for those maintaining innocence, the question is whether the Secretary of State for Justice is fit for purpose.”
Dean exclaimed that although we are not where we would ideally like to be with the parole board and how it effects those who maintain innocence, improvements have been made and the parole system is better than it used to be, in that the likes of HORIZON and KAIZEN are now offered as offending behaviour courses, where one will not have to discuss the index offence. Ultimately however, the problems of the system seem to always fall back into the Justice Minister’s hands, and problems with parole are the same. When one is recommended for open conditions by the parole board, the Secretary of State inevitably has the final decision, which in a case we worked on recently was turned on us negatively.
Dean spoke at length about the troubles with progressing those who are category A, and the issues with the category A team in that they essentially penalise those who maintain innocence. Dean also discussed the major cuts on probation and the effect that this has had on the parole process itself, and moreover discussing that HMPPS in its entirety completely misunderstand maintaining innocence. Often it is naturally assumed that maintaining innocence equates to risk, but it has been evidenced that maintaining innocence is often a protective factor.
It was also mentioned that despite the slight dip in release rates post-Worboys, release rates have in fact gone up, and the number of oral hearing have rocketed, given the rulings in Osborn, Booth and Reilly. Only today did we at Swain and Co get a release decision for someone maintaining innocence.
On a final note, Dean mentioned the cost of keeping people incarcerated… £40,000-£60,000 per year, and £70,000 for those in the high secure estate. Thus, he detailed how necessary it was to progress those in prison to be able to have their risk managed in the community, and moreover the importance of progressing prisoners maintaining innocence.
Following on from Dean, Ruth Tully, a forensic psychologist of Tully Forensic Psychology, discussed the linked with psychology and progressing prisoners maintaining innocence. Ruth is an independent psychologist who often creates psychological reports of offenders who go in front of the parole board, at the instruction of solicitors representing them. An independent psychological assessment is an assessment by a psychologist who is independent of the system that detains them, and an assessment which is conducted by those who will present their truthful professional opinion of the offender.
Ruth depicted an often-common situation in which a prisoner may have had a very bad experience of prison psychology, and how that will often affect their engagement with psychology in general. Ruth clearly stated that the relationship between denial and increased risk is objectively unclear, and that denial doesn’t necessarily increase risk - the research is inconclusive overall.  Ruth also spoke at length at about enabling a good rapport with offenders to be able to complete a full assessment of them, and this involves progressing those who maintain innocence, who often do not want to discuss the index offence they maintain they have never committed. Psychology often involves discussing the index offence, but an understanding of their stance and their view that they have never been involved in that, will improve the quality of report writing.
Offending behaviour courses are often ‘sold’ as being the only way to reduce risk in many prisons, however, Ruth discussed that offending behaviour work is not the only pathway to progression and thus a reduced risk of serious harm.
The event then heard from Chris, who was released 6 weeks ago after spending 20 years incarcerated for Joint Enterprise. The injustice of Joint Enterprise is well known, from the old case of Derek Bentley to the most recent case of Laura Mitchell and is brought to public knowledge and fought against daily by the wonderful grassroots campaign that is JENGbA.[/i]
Read more here: https://www.swainandco.com/prison-law/progressing-prisoners-maintaining-innocence-annual-lecture-10th-december-2018-at-the-house-of-commons/
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Offline puglove

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #158 on: October 13, 2020, 01:14:07 PM »
Something a little bit new.

Murderer Jeremy Bamber, 59, launches High Court legal challenge over refusal by prison service to downgrade him from maximum security Category A status


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8831473/Killer-Jeremy-Bamber-legal-challenge-prison-service-refuses-maximum-security.html

"He has a partner and support network" said Elaine Figgis.


Wirral Globe Stop Press - Nonagenarian makes crumble, then eats it. Wallasey celebrates.

Offline Daisy

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #159 on: October 13, 2020, 02:46:50 PM »
"He has a partner and support network" said Elaine Figgis.

Let’s guess....... Maria Perez?

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #160 on: October 13, 2020, 03:35:52 PM »
Let’s guess....... Maria Perez?

No need to guess Daisy

Maria Perez
@MariaPerez672
Fond of life and living for the moment. Promotes all causes. Lives with Barney and Smudge and is one very happy lady with Jeremy.


Though you’ve previously suggested:

This was written before I know Jeremy so pre 2011. Many of those who wrote testimonies are no longer in contact with Jeremy eg Tom Sturgeon and Maria Perez.

Also discarded Maria Perez, Jackie Preece,  Tom, Mike Tesco and several academics including a good friend of Aunt Agathas.
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Offline Daisy

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #161 on: October 13, 2020, 03:56:05 PM »
No need to guess Daisy

Maria Perez
@MariaPerez672
Fond of life and living for the moment. Promotes all causes. Lives with Barney and Smudge and is one very happy lady with Jeremy.


Though you’ve previously suggested:

Who knows now.  I gather he changes his women like the weather.

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #162 on: October 13, 2020, 04:12:46 PM »
Who knows now.  I gather he changes his women like the weather.

He most certainly abuses women and appears to play one off against the other

People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« on: April 07, 2012, 11:43:AM »

Jackiepreece states:
"Since the documentary by Mark Williams-Thomas there seems to have been some sort of smear campaign to discredit the documentary. Comments from Jeremy Bamber campaigners has ranged from the documentary being vile to the documentary changed their mind from innocent to guilty.
I have posted below one of those comments and I have also posted details that show Sunil Chandrum has close connections to the 'Official Jeremy Bamber Campaign'
Mark Cropper for one actually runs the campaign and Maria Perez has posted a testimonial for Jeremy
The thing I cannot get my head around is why would someone do something so harmful to Jeremy
http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2509.msg77236.html#msg77236

@JoJoTew
@jackiepreece Why do you bother getting up in the morning only to spit out venom all day at other people?
06.01.2012

@jackiepreece Please I appeal to your better side to stop this anger at others and be a better person unite with all those who love Jeremy

Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
05/01/2012 08:06
@jackiepreece you cause trouble for Jeremy Bamber and @simonmckay by slagging both of them off don't lie Jackie

@JoJoTew
@jackiepreece Why dont you shut your filthy mouth Jackie everyone knows you talk about @simonmckay like he's your best friend but insult him
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #163 on: October 13, 2020, 04:40:03 PM »
Let’s guess....... Maria Perez?

There’s an entire twitter thread here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2509.msg77246.html#msg77246

Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 09/02/2012 11:17
>
> > @SunilChandran1 Missed ya, yes did you see Guardian? I will also pray for him also, thanks for wishing us well happiness awaits him at home


Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 03/02/2012 22:21
> > @MariaPerez672 any update on Jeremy there's no news on what evidence my kindest to him, he is in my prayers you are a good and loyal woman
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #164 on: October 13, 2020, 04:46:39 PM »
There’s an entire thread here http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,2509.msg77246.html#msg77246

Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 09/02/2012 11:17
>
> > @SunilChandran1 Missed ya, yes did you see Guardian? I will also pray for him also, thanks for wishing us well happiness awaits him at home


Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 03/02/2012 22:21
> > @MariaPerez672 any update on Jeremy there's no news on what evidence my kindest to him, he is in my prayers you are a good and loyal woman


The ‘Sunil Chandran’ twitter account appears to have changed name to ‘Steve Bolsover’

https://mobile.twitter.com/stevebolsover/status/156814523616079872

> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 16/12/2011 15:02
> > #TodayisFriday of to see my wonderful man tomorrow
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/147693069398065153
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