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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #30 on: April 30, 2020, 07:00:19 PM »
The material they are talking about are CS pictures of the twins and she wasn't given it 'material', she viewed it onsite. Why on earth would that help their case. Surely Bamber remembers the scene of the two dead little boys? It must be etched on his memory. Isn't it typically of the CT not to be specific about the material - I guess saying that Bamber wants such photographs wouldn't look too good.

Has Bamber got copies of these photos ?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2020, 07:12:33 PM »
It's just a fishing expedition IMO but one designed to give a false impression of yet another deliberate conspiracy that he is the victim of.

For me, the actions of JB ltd reveal contemporaneous evidence about his character which shouldn't be ignored. This is not just a naive man that is easily lead, it is a cunning man intent on misleading others.

They haven’t been ignored  8((()*/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #32 on: April 30, 2020, 07:32:29 PM »
Tru Benjamin
@tru68
Good luck to #JeremyBamber and his legal team who are seeking permission for judicial review in a renewed oral application in Leeds Administrative Court tomorrow against the CPS refusal to disclose vital evidence in his case
#Justice

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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #33 on: April 30, 2020, 09:00:59 PM »
Tru Benjamin
@tru68
Feb 29
The moral authority of the verdict in #JeremyBamber’s trial is in question because of the vital and widespread disclosure failures in this case - How can the public have faith in a system that fails to respect the defendants right to equality of arms #NoDisclosureNoJustice

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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #34 on: April 30, 2020, 09:17:43 PM »
Those Instagram photos which CAL posted are not the original crime scene ones of the worktop or Sheila's neck, are they?

Actual crime scene photo above and ITV WHF scene below...


This is a screenshot of the worktop from the ITV series, exactly the same as the one in the Mail article...


I wonder if the  defence will cite Carol as  Witness, as she was given evidence which could have proved him Innocent- what skulduggery is this?

Infamy infamy they all have it infamy!
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Offline Common sense

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2020, 09:25:12 PM »

I wonder if the  defence will cite Carol as  Witness, as she was given evidence which could have proved him Innocent- what skulduggery is this?

Infamy infamy they all have it infamy!

She has surely seen the photo of Sheila posing with Taff Jones taken just before Crispy comes up and pulls the trigger.. we all know what really happened.  @)(++(*

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #36 on: April 30, 2020, 11:37:59 PM »
Apparently CAL has been given files that Bamber hasn't seen and he thinks he has a right to nitpick for typos to exploit no matter how irrelevant a fishing expedition it is.

12 weeks ago

Carol Ann Lee via instagram

For the past few weeks Jeremy Bamber’s Campaign Team have repeated a Tweet in which they claimed I had only received five or six letters from Jeremy himself before the police/prison services forced me to stop writing to him. Neither of these claims are true but both have been repeated on Twitter and elsewhere, leading to a steady stream of full-on abuse directed at me by some of the Bamber supporters. I would not normally respond to trolls or bullies but in this instance, because the source of the story was the official Bamber campaign team, and has been used in a futile attempt to also discredit the outstanding production that is ‘White House Farm’, I’m posting a section of the letters I received from Jeremy during our three year correspondence, which gradually tailed off and ended when he wrote to say that he could ‘no longer write meaningful letters’ about his case. I have no problem with anyone believing Jeremy to be innocent but hope that no one takes the word of the campaign team as a basis for that. And that’s all I have to say on the matter. #whitehousefarm #truecrime #factsnotfiction #standuptobullies #internettrolls

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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #37 on: May 01, 2020, 08:11:25 AM »
Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@tru68
 and
@jbcampaignltd
How refreshing to have Mr Bamber referred to by his name, and not by his conviction tag. If the @guardian
 can do it, why can’t other newspapers? Barry George had to live with the tag of HIS conviction too. No one ever apologised for doing that!

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
If you’re interested in true crime (the truth) you’ll find it in here.
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SC Lomax
@SCLomax
 · 7h
A special offer for a limited time. Just £1.49 https://amazon.co.uk/Jeremy-Bamber-Scott-Lomax-ebook/dp/B00D0UXVTE/ref=zg_bs_5435505031_47?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=HJH2DF4JGJ0XTMN469T0… #JeremyBamber #whitehousefarm
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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #38 on: May 01, 2020, 08:25:41 AM »
Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
It's self evident that if police won't hand over what's requested ( and has been ordered to be disclosed in court) that there is deliberate concealment.
Quite clear what that is as well. It is all the evidence which proves it was Sheila.
Long to feel pride in country again.
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Jeremy Bamber
@Bambertweets
 · Apr 29
Read this comment, and sign the #petition:

"It's a disgrace an I believe theres hidden  evidence amongst the undisclosed files."

Sign the petition!

#JeremyBamber #WhiteHouseFarm
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11:42 AM · Apr 29, 2020·Twitter Web App

Fighting for Justice
@justice_waiting
Apr 29
Replying to
@lizyeld
It is as clear as day that it was sheila. What are the police hiding?

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
Apr 29
Taff Jones, original police investigator always knew it was Sheila and that JB had nothing to do with it. Tragically  killed a week before trial. After relatives had conducted what Simon Lomax describes as the "unofficial investigation" and Mugford lied, police "changed focus."

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
I normally get called Steve (not sure why). Simon is a new one :)

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Face with tears of joy


https://mobile.twitter.com/lizyeld/status/1255447437864570880

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Offline Common sense

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #39 on: May 01, 2020, 10:58:49 AM »
Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
It's self evident that if police won't hand over what's requested ( and has been ordered to be disclosed in court) that there is deliberate concealment.
Quite clear what that is as well. It is all the evidence which proves it was Sheila.
Long to feel pride in country again.
Quote Tweet

Jeremy Bamber
@Bambertweets
 · Apr 29
Read this comment, and sign the #petition:

"It's a disgrace an I believe theres hidden  evidence amongst the undisclosed files."

Sign the petition!

#JeremyBamber #WhiteHouseFarm
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11:42 AM · Apr 29, 2020·Twitter Web App

Fighting for Justice
@justice_waiting
Apr 29
Replying to
@lizyeld
It is as clear as day that it was sheila. What are the police hiding?

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
Apr 29
Taff Jones, original police investigator always knew it was Sheila and that JB had nothing to do with it. Tragically  killed a week before trial. After relatives had conducted what Simon Lomax describes as the "unofficial investigation" and Mugford lied, police "changed focus."

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
I normally get called Steve (not sure why). Simon is a new one :)

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Face with tears of joy


https://mobile.twitter.com/lizyeld/status/1255447437864570880

You can see that the CT have some success with those that have a biased view of the CJS and superficial understanding of the case.

This makes me question the motives behind the JR attempt - there is surely no evidence left to disclose so is it a cynical ploy to promote the carefully crafted illusion that the "corrupt justice system knows JB is innocent" but prefer to let an innocent man rot in jail rather than admit it? 

The pretence that there is an impressive and irrefutable case for innocence seems to be swallowed whole: 


Havelock Vetinari.
@teadrinker19
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3m

The blood could have came from an animal. The silencer wasn't even found until days later. The plod didn't examine Sheila because they thought it was a murder/suicide.
How do you know he didn't call him? Were YOU there? Or are you psychic?
Sheila's blood was wet. Hours later.

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2020, 11:41:44 AM »
Adjourned until 29th May

Simon Hattenstone
@shattenstone
Jeremy Bamber's court hearing for disclosure of vital docs has been adjourned till May 29. Attached are some of the docs that were passed by Essex police officers to Carol Ann Lee, the author who contributed to the recent TV drama, but not disclosed to Bamber.


https://mobile.twitter.com/shattenstone/status/1256170632670261248
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Offline Common sense

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2020, 11:56:41 AM »
Adjourned until 29th May

Simon Hattenstone
@shattenstone
Jeremy Bamber's court hearing for disclosure of vital docs has been adjourned till May 29. Attached are some of the docs that were passed by Essex police officers to Carol Ann Lee, the author who contributed to the recent TV drama, but not disclosed to Bamber.


https://mobile.twitter.com/shattenstone/status/1256170632670261248

Aww... Trudi will have to put the champagne back in the fridge and hang on to the party poppers.

Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2020, 01:07:46 PM »
Pinned Tweet
Heidi
@HeidiHawkins39
Carol Ann Lee (#WhiteHouseFarm drama) said Essex police assisted her research by providing her with documents. She posted an image on Instagram showing a series of them not disclosed to #JeremyBamber's defence team.

The Instagram post has been deleted.

Jeremy Bamber lawyers seek review of CPS refusal to disclose evidence
Bamber is serving life sentence for killing his a parents, sister and her twin boys in 1985
theguardian.com
11:40 AM · Apr 30, 2020·Twitter Web App


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Mick Geen Retweeted
Heidi
@HeidiHawkins39
It is disgusting that a 3rd party was provided with documents & sensitive photographs when Essex police & the CPS have been unwilling to hand over material to our own forensic experts to prove that 2 silencers were recovered from the scene." #JeremyBamber

Jeremy Bamber lawyers seek review of CPS refusal to disclose evidence
Bamber is serving life sentence for killing his a parents, sister and her twin boys in 1985
theguardian.com

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Replying to
@HeidiHawkins39 and @guardian
indeed. They refuse to confirm or deny the existence of documents and then willingly share them with this author


https://mobile.twitter.com/HeidiHawkins39/status/1256168882940907520

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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2020, 01:19:43 PM »
SC Lomax
@SCLomax
I asked Essex Police to answer questions for my book. They refused to answer even the simplest. Why then so accommodating to another author?
12:30 PM · May 1, 2020·Twitter for iPad

Michelle Diskin Bates
@Michelle_Diskin
Replying to
@SCLomax
She was not considered an enemy of the state?


https://mobile.twitter.com/SCLomax/status/1256184199440195589

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
I am still waiting for a response to my request for an internal review. Refusing evidence to Jeremy Bamber's campaign back in 2010.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SCLomax/status/1256185567173320706

Maybe an Admin can upload Lomax’s photo

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Keeping everything crossed for #JeremyBamber. At least the truth is very nearly as popular as the fiction.
12:14 PM · May 1, 2020·Twitter for iPad


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Offline Nicholas

Re: More disappointment looming for Bamber?
« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2020, 01:31:13 PM »
Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
I could not recommend this book more highly.
Ten yrs ago, it never occurred to me that courts could get it badly wrong.
If you are like I was, read this book.
There is an obligation on ALL of us, (which I realised late) to defend our fellow men from excesses of State errors.
8:59 AM · May 1, 2020·Twitter Web App

SC Lomax
@SCLomax
Replying to
@lizyeld
thank you

James
@J26thacc
Replying to
@lizyeld
Thoughts on Carolines book on it?

Elizabeth Yeld
@lizyeld
Have never read on principle and since recent film was based on it, wouldn't watch that either.
I know from people I trust completely it was based on chat rooms and betrayal of JB. She exchanged letters with JB pretending to believe in his innocence from what I understand. Nice.


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