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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #270 on: May 09, 2020, 12:14:50 PM »
What Is a Psychopath Compared to a Narcissist?

According to the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy, narcissism is an interpersonal symptom of psychopathy. Indeed, symptoms of narcissism like grandiosity, exploitive behavior and a lack of empathy are common in psychopaths. A psychopath could, and likely would, easily fit the diagnosis for narcissistic personality disorder as well, therefore, psychopaths are narcissists. (Relationship Between Psychopathy and Personality Disorders)

https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths


Gunit won’t like that, VS
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #271 on: May 09, 2020, 12:16:41 PM »
Rainbows End page 758 (Kindle). A 'religious monster' he called June.

Slight difference in terminology there

Colin was making reference to June’s religious obsession, it’s quite obvious 🙄
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #272 on: May 09, 2020, 12:22:07 PM »
What Is a Psychopath Compared to a Narcissist?

According to the Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy, narcissism is an interpersonal symptom of psychopathy. Indeed, symptoms of narcissism like grandiosity, exploitive behavior and a lack of empathy are common in psychopaths. A psychopath could, and likely would, easily fit the diagnosis for narcissistic personality disorder as well, therefore, psychopaths are narcissists. (Relationship Between Psychopathy and Personality Disorders)

https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths

However, just because there is some crossover and a person fits the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder does not mean that he or she is also a psychopath. In order to be considered a psychopath, many other psychopathic symptoms such as a lack of attachment to others, superficial charm, dishonesty, manipulativeness and reckless risk-taking come into play. Certainly, psychopathic narcissists exist, but they are not the norm.
https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #273 on: May 09, 2020, 12:40:30 PM »
However, just because there is some crossover and a person fits the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder does not mean that he or she is also a psychopath. In order to be considered a psychopath, many other psychopathic symptoms such as a lack of attachment to others, superficial charm, dishonesty, manipulativeness and reckless risk-taking come into play. Certainly, psychopathic narcissists exist, but they are not the norm.
https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths
I think it’s fair to say it’s all a matter of opinion depending on which expert you speak to.  I’m struggling to think of a diagnosed psychopath who didn’t also exhibit narcissistic traits - perhaps you know of one?
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Offline APRIL

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #274 on: May 09, 2020, 12:52:09 PM »
Rainbows End page 758 (Kindle). A 'religious monster' he called June.


But as it isn't clear whether he was referring to June or religion per se, as an atheist, I suspect he was speaking about religion.

Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #275 on: May 09, 2020, 01:31:30 PM »
However, just because there is some crossover and a person fits the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder does not mean that he or she is also a psychopath. In order to be considered a psychopath, many other psychopathic symptoms such as a lack of attachment to others, superficial charm, dishonesty, manipulativeness and reckless risk-taking come into play. Certainly, psychopathic narcissists exist, but they are not the norm.
https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths

You do realise you’ve just described JB to a tee, don’t you?😳
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Offline Caroline

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #276 on: May 09, 2020, 01:58:08 PM »
However, just because there is some crossover and a person fits the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder does not mean that he or she is also a psychopath. In order to be considered a psychopath, many other psychopathic symptoms such as a lack of attachment to others, superficial charm, dishonesty, manipulativeness and reckless risk-taking come into play. Certainly, psychopathic narcissists exist, but they are not the norm.
https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/psychopath/the-narcissistic-psychopath-are-narcissists-psychopaths

All of those things apply to Jeremy. Just think about the caravan park incident!

Offline G-Unit

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #277 on: May 09, 2020, 02:01:03 PM »

But as it isn't clear whether he was referring to June or religion per se, as an atheist, I suspect he was speaking about religion.

Whatever her motivations he saw her behaviour towards her daughter as 'ritualised abuse'...'a form of brainwashing'. She certainly overstepped the limits when she ignored Sheila and Colin's wishes for the twins. In my opinion she was a bully and a control freak who used religion as a justification for her behaviour.
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Offline ISpyWithMyEye

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #278 on: May 09, 2020, 05:36:38 PM »
Whatever her motivations he saw her behaviour towards her daughter as 'ritualised abuse'...'a form of brainwashing'. She certainly overstepped the limits when she ignored Sheila and Colin's wishes for the twins. In my opinion she was a bully and a control freak who used religion as a justification for her behaviour.

You haven’t replied to the responses saying you’ve described Jeremy to a tee. Why’s that?

Perhaps you can’t...

Whatever, if you’re saying June had such a detrimental effect on Sheila, surely her behaviour had an effect on Jeremy too? That’s providing he had normal emotions, of course...
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Offline The General

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #279 on: May 09, 2020, 06:27:59 PM »
I think it’s fair to say it’s all a matter of opinion depending on which expert you speak to.  I’m struggling to think of a diagnosed psychopath who didn’t also exhibit narcissistic traits - perhaps you know of one?
Timothy McVeigh
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Offline Caroline

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #280 on: May 09, 2020, 06:58:57 PM »
Timothy McVeigh

How do you know he didn't?

Offline The General

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #281 on: May 09, 2020, 07:03:11 PM »
How do you know he didn't?
He wasn't really known as narcissistic, or even outgoing, but was 'diagnosed' as a psychopath.

https://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/bombp8.htm
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #282 on: May 09, 2020, 07:08:04 PM »
You haven’t replied to the responses saying you’ve described Jeremy to a tee. Why’s that?

Perhaps you can’t...

Whatever, if you’re saying June had such a detrimental effect on Sheila, surely her behaviour had an effect on Jeremy too? That’s providing he had normal emotions, of course...

I'm repeating what other people said about June's effect on Sheila. There's not much information about how she affected Jeremy.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #283 on: May 09, 2020, 07:34:48 PM »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Paedophiles in Parliament
« Reply #284 on: May 09, 2020, 07:35:16 PM »
He wasn't really known as narcissistic, or even outgoing, but was 'diagnosed' as a psychopath.

https://extras.denverpost.com/bomb/bombp8.htm
“Oklahoma City brought him status. And the government he despised handed him the chance to prolong that status when, just days before his original May 16 execution date, the FBI disclosed newly discovered documents that had never been turned over to defense attorneys.

The foul-up gave McVeigh another 25 days of life and brought him yet more attention.

It played into what the prosecution psychologist said was “a combination of [McVeigh’s] narcissism and boredom, and there may be certain grandiose fantasies too.”

“In the narcissism there is a sense of being a legend in one’s own mind,” said the psychologist, who asked that his name be withheld because of his work for the government. “There’s an inflation of one’s self and one’s importance, and sometimes there’s even a sense of immortality, that somehow your execution or death is not real. It becomes so pervaded with grandiosity that, instead of being frightened of death, it’s embraced.

“And he was a sensation seeker. To the max. And being in prison, particularly in general isolation, it’s just exceedingly boring. Particularly if you’re drawn to sensation. He would be deeply bored, enough to feel it consciously day in and day out.”
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