June and Nevill Bamber’s wills & Jeremy Bamber’s Motive to Kill the Twins

[Holly Goodhead]

The dynamics are different in every relationship. If I had come across my in-laws wills I wouldn't have read them out of respect, but I would have read my mother's. I found (and read) my adoption papers which was the weirdest thing. I learned my birth name and it was exactly the same as my best friend's name. That blew my mind. After a while I went back and looked again, and all the names had been blacked out. Although we never talked about it, she obviously realised I'd seen them.

I was never sure if my mother was telling me the truth. That leads to information gathering. Secrets encourage searchers.

Information gathering, you can say that again!  I remember when my parents went out on a Sat eve and started to leave my brother and me alone no sooner were they out the door I would be on the prowl information gathering!  Weirdly I would get a buzz out of it even looking at the same info again which could be anything personal even bills!

When I found myself in the homes of others eg if I babysat for someone or a boyfriend the thought crossed my mind and I remember thinking a) I wasn't really interested b) I would be invading their privacy c) it wasn't morally right and d) I might get found out.

I don't ever recall looking through anyone else's stuff even my children's eg phones etc. 

[G-Unit]

Information gathering, you can say that again!  I remember when my parents went out on a Sat eve and started to leave my brother and me alone no sooner were they out the door I would be on the prowl information gathering!  Weirdly I would get a buzz out of it even looking at the same info again which could be anything personal even bills!

When I found myself in the homes of others eg if I babysat for someone or a boyfriend the thought crossed my mind and I remember thinking a) I wasn't really interested b) I would be invading their privacy c) it wasn't morally right and d) I might get found out.

I don't ever recall looking through anyone else's stuff even my children's eg phones etc.

Do you think it was because we felt they weren't completely honest with us?

[Holly Goodhead]

Do you think it was because we felt they weren't completely honest with us?

Yes probably. 

[APRIL]

Do you think it was because we felt they weren't completely honest with us?

Yes probably. 

As a fully paid up member of this select little club, YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN with no fear of contradiction. My mother told me that my real mother was a prostitute!!! My father said she'd was a actress -I rather liked that. I knew nothing -true- of my background until I made a request, I think, from the local council. My adopted mother had burned them because she didn't want me to know.

[G-Unit]

As a fully paid up member of this select little club, YOU CAN SAY THAT AGAIN with no fear of contradiction. My mother told me that my real mother was a prostitute!!! My father said she'd was a actress -I rather liked that. I knew nothing -true- of my background until I made a request, I think, from the local council. My adopted mother had burned them because she didn't want me to know.

I feel for them now, as I don't think they had any idea how to deal with the situation really. I think we hurt them too, but we were just children. My husband's older brother had a different father than the others, and he was affected by that too. My father-in-law tolerated him. It's difficult being different.

[Caroline]

Yes, I was told the 'we chose you' story from a very early age. I was 2 years old when they got me.

Do you think it would be better if kids weren't told?

[APRIL]

I feel for them now, as I don't think they had any idea how to deal with the situation really. I think we hurt them too, but we were just children. My husband's older brother had a different father than the others, and he was affected by that too. My father-in-law tolerated him. It's difficult being different.

From this safe distance, as an adult, I can afford to be more generous. However, it remains an adult's responsibility to parent their child -to make their worlds safe and secure- it is NEVER the child's responsibility to 'parent' their parent. I agree that it's difficult being different. Perhaps, even more so if one is forced to remember, on a daily basis, that one IS different.

[APRIL]

Do you think it would be better if kids weren't told?

I think the problem is that someone will know. I was told the first day I was at boarding school -albeit, a day pupil- when I was 7. As it happened, I knew.

[G-Unit]

Do you think it would be better if kids weren't told?

We had different birth certificates so it was always going to come out. That's how some people learned, in fact.

[Holly Goodhead]

Do you think it would be better if kids weren't told?

No.  I don't think 'closed' adoptions are practised anymore.  Afaik they're all 'open'.

[APRIL]

We had different birth certificates so it was always going to come out. That's how some people learned, in fact.

The moment I held my real birth certificate for the first time was the moment I started to feel 'real'.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I'd thought that was where he'd read them? My parents' Wills were at home, but there are boundaries which have to be respected and adhered to. I wouldn't have dreamed of taking a sneak preview.

Yes, most people keep copies, usually in their safe or locked away in a desk.

Jeremy admitted to the police he’d read their wills; it’s in his witness statement.

Question is: what made him do that?........

[ISpyWithMyEye]

He did Jane, they were in the safe. It was a while before the murders when he read them and not sure if they were amended or changed in the interim.

June Bamber made her last will and testament on 13th June, 1979 and Nevill made his on 3rd August, 1979


They never altered or amended them, and they were the ones that were used for probate.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Really? I wouldn't simply because a will is something related to after death and I wouldn't like to think about such things.

Nor me!

[mrswah]

June Bamber made her last will and testament on 13th June, 1979 and Nevill made his on 3rd August, 1979


They never altered or amended them, and they were the ones that were used for probate.

I assume you sent away for copies of the wills, I Spy ??

I help people with family history research, and therefore, I know that wills are public documents, able to be accessed by anybody (for a fee). When I reported this on another forum, people were appalled. Just as a matter of interest, how did you feel about accessing the Bambers' wills? (not condemning you in any way; I have accessed wills for people numerous times!!).