Wandering off topic.

[Eleanor]

Some of them - I don't pretend to be an expert on this but I believe the fact that we are moving through space would make time travel impossible because we would have to travel back to the same space in time in order to do so. It's kind of brain frying stuff 

You don't want to go there.  Trust me.

[Holly Goodhead]

Some of them - I don't pretend to be an expert on this but I believe the fact that we are moving through space would make time travel impossible because we would have to travel back to the same space in time in order to do so. It's kind of brain frying stuff 

What do you mean by 'we'?

[Vertigo Swirl]

My husband was interested in nature. We watched David Attenborough since the 1960's. I developed an interest in British wildlife when I realised how much I didn't notice. We had a narrowboat and my husband would see foxes, rabbits and birds but even when he told me I couldn't always see them. He taught me how to look. He had learned from his Dad and his uncles. Like many miners they liked to be out in nature when not working.

I thought your husband was an army man?

[G-Unit]

I thought your husband was an army man?

He was. He went out with his Dad and his uncles as a boy. His Dad was a dedicated fisherman. He often took my husband with him. His uncle took him rabbiting with his ferrets.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He was. He went out with his Dad and his uncles as a boy. His Dad was a dedicated fisherman. He often took my husband with him. His uncle took him rabbiting with his ferrets.

So who was the miner?

[G-Unit]

So who was the miner?

His father and his uncle. My father-in-law was in the pit all his working life apart from a spell in the Army in WW2, although he didn't need to go.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I think it is very much a case of the whole being the sum of its parts and the eyes are in my opinion a part.  Quite a few people have told me they are finding it disturbing when being treated by medical staff whose faces are covered because they are wearing masks.  So I think we are subconsciousjy taking in a lot of information from expression and I think the more experienced a psychiatrist becomes the better s/he will become at being informed by reading demeanour and expression of which I think the eyes play an integral part.

Absolutely true.

We read people far more than we realise. And eyes are DEFINITELY the biggest give-away if all. Eyes express emotions ,everyone is aware of that.

And as you say, the whole package — their demeanour, body movements, expressions, sudden subtle jerks of the the foot when they’re lying, glancing away, or staring intently, rubbing their nose or wiping their hands by their mouth when they’re lying, rapid blinking, stance, distance, altered tone in speech...even down to how they present themselves, speak, manners...and smell too. We all have our own individual scent which can attract or repel. Some mental disorders can cause strange body odours, and some people claim people with a PD omits a certain odour..


I definitely believe the Internet has helped evil people scam, fool and con. Women can’t gauge men online or just by letters and an occasional phone call. That’s why Jeremy Bamber finds it so easy to bamboozle certain women (and men): they don’t know him. He’s just text on a screen; words in letter; and the occasional rushed call where you don’t have time to talk at length .

[ISpyWithMyEye]

What a good degree course does is far more than disseminate facts. It teaches students how to conduct research to find the facts themselves and to understand and use them. Students are taught to provide bibliographies too, to demonstrate where the facts came from. I take it you don't have one as you appear have no interest in providing the sources of your 'facts'?

You’re making assumptions again, Gunit

What makes you ASSUME I don’t have a degree or even a PhD because I can’t be bothered to hunt out sources for you? Do you think your opinion of me is that important to me that I’ll run off and find a source to try and impress you? You over-estimate yourself, Gunit. You don’t impress me at all, and I certainly am not interested in impressing you.

You don’t need to tell me about degrees...I think almost everyone has them, especially these days. A degree simply shows you’re capable of studying and processing information, but if you take a degree in, say, social sciences, that almost proves you’re NOT academic as almost no-one can fail them.

[Caroline]

His father and his uncle. My father-in-law was in the pit all his working life apart from a spell in the Army in WW2, although he didn't need to go.

I come from a mining area (Easington) - once great communities. Pretty crapola now - even the Billy Elliot locations have mostly disappeared. 

[G-Unit]

You’re making assumptions again, Gunit

What makes you ASSUME I don’t have a degree or even a PhD because I can’t be bothered to hunt out sources for you? Do you think your opinion of me is that important to me that I’ll run off and find a source to try and impress you? You over-estimate yourself, Gunit. You don’t impress me at all, and I certainly am not interested in impressing you.

You don’t need to tell me about degrees...I think almost everyone has them, especially these days. A degree simply shows you’re capable of studying and processing information, but if you take a degree in, say, social sciences, that almost proves you’re NOT academic as almost no-one can fail them.

So those with degrees in Anthropology, Archaeology, Economics, Geography, Politics, History, Law, Linguistics, Politics, Psychology and Sociology aren't academic?

[G-Unit]

I come from a mining area (Easington) - once great communities. Pretty crapola now - even the Billy Elliot locations have mostly disappeared. 

Great communities, but a terrible job. My husband had two choices; the pit or the cotton mill. On his Dad's advice he took the mill.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

 
I am not a member of Mensa nor want to be.  I think they are a load of pretentious pratts.  Which is probably the most intelligent thing I have ever said. 
Besides, they wanted money that I couldn't afford to pay just to sit their Test. 

I took a Peripheral Test to see if I was worth their time and my money.  It was a money making exercise on their part.  They must have thought that I was half daft along with my IQ. 

But I had already been deemed as well above average at the age of twelve.  IQ doesn't change.  But neither does it help all that much when it comes to real life, apart from how to hang washing on the line to take up less space.

But you must have had some kind of desire to join by using your precious time to see if Mensa were worthy of your genius? And you call THEM pretentious...😤

Where did you take the “peripheral test”?   And what do you mean by it was Peripheral?

I’m sure you didn’t take it on one of those Facebook tests that pop up and tell you you’re a genius by ticking the correct answer to “What is 2 x 2?”

Mensa isn’t a money making organisation; it’s a networking group where you meet equally bright people with varied interests, and can gain access to certain research centres and events not usually accessible to the public. So if you’re inquisitive like I am, you can gain information that may not just be of interest to you, but can also be incredibly helpful depending on what your reasons for discovering it are. Yes, there’s bound to be boring nerds there, but being savvy you’d know how to avoid them...😌

And I’m sure you’d be of immense help by telling other members how to hang their washing on the line — invaluable! But I suspect most people who are exceptionally bright have used their intelligence to their advantage so they don’t need to peg out their own washing...chores can be awfully boring 

[ISpyWithMyEye]

It hasn't always been the case.

It most certainly has.

Have you not heard of a plumber’s mate?

Or a Saturday girl in a hairdressers who starts off washing customers hair and then progresses to becoming an experienced stylist/colourist?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You don’t automatically become a member of Mensa. It is an organisation you pay to belong to once you have the required IQ. There are various psychological tests and each one scores differently. My daughter scored 136 in the test she took at University and submitted it to Mensa. They then invited her to join. The yearly membership is not cheap and all it does is provide a newsletter from time to time and let’s you know what events are in your local area. There was no one near where my daughter lived and she thought it was a waste of money so didn’t renew her membership after the first year.

Daisy, the pass rate is 140, or may even be higher (148, possibly?)

You cannot become a member with an IQ of 136: I know that for a fact.

Nor can you take a test and send it off to Mensa — you have to be tested by Mensa themselves under strict controlled conditions.

Maybe you’ve forgotten your daughter’s IQ and the fact she must have been tested by Mensa?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I think it's generally accepted that IQ tests aren't the best way to test intelligence.

Possibly not.

Not forgetting there’s various types of intelligence...

But IQ tests, which are used in psychiatry, are certainly a good indicator of how fast a person’s reasoning works.