Why would Julie do this? Say this?

[Caroline]

It doesn't add up that June was going to buy JB's girlfriend a pad in London with or without a mortgage.  Especially when she might well have guessed the relationship would fizzle out. Why not buy a pad in London in her own name allowing JB to use?

It doesn't add up for you but then you're talking about someone you don't know so it's impossible to second guess her.

[Caroline]

To my mind it shows June was unsuitable to adopt if she had such an aversion to her adult adopted children having sexual relationships at an age appropriate time during the mid 80's.

What should she have done, arranged orgies - would that make her more acceptable?

[APRIL]

To my mind it shows June was unsuitable to adopt if she had such an aversion to her adult adopted children having sexual relationships at an age appropriate time during the mid 80's.

I can give you many reasons why someone someone shouldn't be allowed to adopt, but I don't think an aversion to their adult children's sex lives would be one of them.

[Robittybob1]

That was what JB claimed was said around the kitchen table, but as he lies, and wanted to give a reason for why maybe Sheila had gone “berserk”, you need to discard that. Besides, Colin had custody of the children so it wasn’t up to June or Nevill to decide where the twins should go.

That’s just a lie of his.

As you may know I'm in New Zealand, so I haven't been able to join the discussion for the last 8 hours. 
The main document I've been working with is the "Judgment As Approved by the Court"  I'm not sure what it is called but it is found at https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf

It outlines the first case against Jeremy and details why his appeal fails.   In the document there are references to two phone calls made to WHF earlier the evening that make others aware that things are not going smoothly that evening.
So this is not just a lie created by Jeremy Bamber as you have opinioned.

[Robittybob1]

Rollerblades, perhaps...

Or a car .....

[The General]

Or a car .....

More likely a car, given the terrain.

[Robittybob1]

Logic should tell you, MrsWah, that June and Nevill would never have even mentioned having the twins adopted or fostered. Reasons why not:

Colin had custody

It wasn’t up to June or Nevill who had custody of the boys

June would have felt huge shame having her grandchildren fostered out/adopted

June and Nevill adored the grandchildren so why would they want them removed from the family?

Colin would never have agreed

Sheila would never have agreed

Sheila had joint custody

The twins would have been traumatised

June and Nevill had enough money to employ nannies, au pairs, housekeepers...so no need for fostering/adoption

The twins had a home in London with Sheila and with Colin

Had the worst happened and neither Sheila or Colin could care for the twins (which wasn’t the case — Colin was an excellent father who had the support of his parents’ too, who also adored the boys) June and Nevill would’ve loved to have had the twins living with them


The whole thing is utter nonsense

It may be nonsense but we are getting the picture and it involves a mother who has been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and who still has marijuana in her system, a drug known to intensify paranoia.

[Nicholas]

The police and intelligence are not words I would use in the same sentence. 

NB is on record referring to EP as 'Dad's Army'.

You mean like poor Chris Jefferies and countless other entirely law abiding people who suffer at the hands of the tabloids because they're too damn lazy to do any proper investigating of the facts.

And yet you brought up the name of an innocent murder victim who suffered a similar fate - as did her family

[Robittybob1]

All that reiterates is how fearful June was that she didn’t want the twins put into care

So that blows Jeremy’s lie out the water...

In your opinion may be.

[barrier]

As you may know I'm in New Zealand, so I haven't been able to join the discussion for the last 8 hours. 
The main document I've been working with is the "Judgment As Approved by the Court"  I'm not sure what it is called but it is found at https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf

It outlines the first case against Jeremy and details why his appeal fails.   In the document there are references to two phone calls made to WHF earlier the evening that make others aware that things are not going smoothly that evening.
So this is not just a lie created by Jeremy Bamber as you have opinioned.

Is that the same HENRIQUES who prosecuted Shipman one wonders.

[Robittybob1]

Is that the same HENRIQUES who prosecuted Shipman one wonders.

"LORD JUSTICE KAY
MR JUSTICE WRIGHT
and
MR JUSTICE HENRIQUES"   

I don't know TBH.  But most likely I would say.

[Myster]

Is that the same HENRIQUES who prosecuted Shipman one wonders.

Yes, they're pushing his new book which also contains a bit on Bamber...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8349495/How-sent-Dr-Death-Lawyer-Richard-Henriques-recalls-battle-court-Harold-Shipman.html

[Holly Goodhead]

It doesn't add up for you but then you're talking about someone you don't know so it's impossible to second guess her.

What evidence exists that June offered to buy JM. A pad?

[Caroline]

As you may know I'm in New Zealand, so I haven't been able to join the discussion for the last 8 hours. 
The main document I've been working with is the "Judgment As Approved by the Court"  I'm not sure what it is called but it is found at https://murderpedia.org/male.B/images/bamber_jeremy/20011745.pdf

It outlines the first case against Jeremy and details why his appeal fails.   In the document there are references to two phone calls made to WHF earlier the evening that make others aware that things are not going smoothly that evening.
So this is not just a lie created by Jeremy Bamber as you have opinioned.

It is the 2002 appeal document - what phone calls?

[Holly Goodhead]

What should she have done, arranged orgies - would that make her more acceptable?

I think it would have been more acceptable for her to accept the social mores of the day which involved those over the age of consent having sexual relationships outside of marriage.

If June had such an aversion to this its difficult to see how she was able to view her adopted children in a positive light who themselves were the product of sex outside marriage.