Just Because...

[APRIL]

Just because he talked about drugging his parents and burning the house down doesn't make him a murderer.

[Caroline]

Just because a torn picture of the twins was found at Sheila's flat where he had been residing, doesn't make him a murderer.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Just because he tried to flog porny pics of his dead sister, to a s..mmy newspaper, doesn't make him a murderer.

We can’t include this because it cannot 100% be verified according to his supporters.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Just because he talked about drugging his parents and burning the house down doesn't make him a murderer.

Again, supporters will dispute this ever happened so cannot be allowed.

[APRIL]

We can’t include this because it cannot 100% be verified according to his supporters.

Ok. Can it be deleted. Have to play fair.

[Caroline]

We can’t include this because it cannot 100% be verified according to his supporters.

OK, just because he discussed phornographic pictures with Colin, stating 'you can see everything right down to the last detail and later admitted meeting with a Sun Jurno; after which an article appeared in The Sun stating that Bamber had tried to sell pornographic pictures to the paper using the sentence, 'you can see everything right down to the last detail' - doesn't make him a murderer.

[Brancher]

Just because JB had his mother’s beloved pet dog put down within 24 hours of her death doesn’t mean he’s a murderer.

What if Bamber couldn't look after the dog?  Wasn't it normal for people to put down dogs when the dog wasn't wanted?  Not very nice, but something that people tended to, especially in those days, and still do to an extent.  A vet will put down a dog on virtually any pretext.  And didn't the vet agree to do so?

The point doesn't really tell us anything, does it.  I love dogs and have always had them, but I have had to put dogs down that I've inherited and couldn't look after.

Bamber was a rural boy and he might have had a hardened attitude. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Just because JB fixed himself a hearty breakfast on the morning of the murders doesn’t mean he’s a murderer.

[Brancher]

We can’t include this because it cannot 100% be verified according to his supporters.

But didn't the newspaper then print it as a story, in effect challenging Bamber to sue them for libel if it wasn't true?  And why would the journalist lie?  Did Bamber complain to the newspaper? 

I'm inclined to believe it.  I think Bamber was a nasty piece of work.  But again, sorry to say this, and I know you'll laugh, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

[APRIL]

But didn't the newspaper then print it as a story, in effect challenging Bamber to sue them for libel if it wasn't true?  And why would the journalist lie?  Did Bamber complain to the newspaper? 

I'm inclined to believe it.  I think Bamber was a nasty piece of work.  But again, sorry to say this, and I know you'll laugh, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

Not laughing, Brancher. This thread is about all those "Just because he did..........." things which don't (necessarily!!) make him a murderer. So post away...........

[adam]

Bit of a weird thing to do. The clothes were not going to incriminate him, unless they were the clothes they were wearing when killed. 

The thread must be referring to the bed sheets and carpets. It was probably a joint decision between Bamber & the police to burn these. Bloodied carpet and bed sheets cannot stay in WHF indefinately.

[adam]

The 60+ pieces of forensic evidence against one alive suspect, who had a motive, opportunity, no alibi and a witness against him, is what makes him guilty.

[Vertigo Swirl]

But didn't the newspaper then print it as a story, in effect challenging Bamber to sue them for libel if it wasn't true?  And why would the journalist lie?  Did Bamber complain to the newspaper? 

I'm inclined to believe it.  I think Bamber was a nasty piece of work.  But again, sorry to say this, and I know you'll laugh, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

His supporters on here choose to believe the story was concocted by the Sun (a paper they claim regularly invents stories from scratch) with collaboration from family members that wanted JB put away.  As there is no definitive independent proof that JB did approach the Sun apart from the journalist’s say-so and that of various other “untrustworthy” family and friends I’m not allowing it as a “just because”.

[Caroline]

Bit of a weird thing to do. The clothes were not going to incriminate him, unless they were the clothes they were wearing when killed. 

The thread must be referring to the bed sheets and carpets. It was probably a joint decision between Bamber & the police to burn these. Bloodied carpet and bed sheets cannot stay in WHF indefinately.

I'm not referring to the bed sheets, he loaded his parents clothes onto a trailer and got a farm hand to burn the lot.

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm not referring to the bed sheets, he loaded his parents clothes onto a trailer and got a farm hand to burn the lot.

How long did the landlords give him?

What items were burned and when?