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Offline Holly Goodhead

It has always been my understanding that medication used to treat schizophrenia is not a total safeguard against violence and a study seems to suggest this is the case. 

Also it isn't possible to rule out comorbidity ie that the violence originated from some cause other than the schizophrenia.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/07/080701083527.htm
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2020, 04:50:26 PM »
All bases covered, by the sound of it.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2020, 05:22:37 PM »
All bases covered, by the sound of it.

Caro said the other day she had been unable to find any evidence of violence where schizophrenics were taking their meds. 
« Last Edit: May 24, 2020, 05:26:01 PM by Holly Goodhead »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2020, 05:26:27 PM »
Caro said the other day she had been able to find any evidence of violence where schizophrenics were taking their meds.

Please produce a scintilla of evidence that Sheila Cassell was violent.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2020, 05:35:21 PM »
Please produce a scintilla of evidence that Sheila Cassell was violent.

I explained the reason for starting the thread above but now you've asked:

She, had to her credit, kicked up a good fight and called him a dirty old man who ought to know better than try it on with a girl young enough to be his daughter.

What really amazed me was that she was more angry than frightened.

Page 9 CC's book.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2020, 05:38:16 PM »
There were even times we could have killed each other; violence was just below the surface.

CC's book, page 10.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2020, 05:45:31 PM »
This aggravated the situation and Sheila became even more violent and abusive.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline APRIL

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2020, 05:46:41 PM »
I explained the reason for starting the thread above but now you've asked:

She, had to her credit, kicked up a good fight and called him a dirty old man who ought to know better than try it on with a girl young enough to be his daughter.

What really amazed me was that she was more angry than frightened.

Page 9 CC's book.


Dissecting his words, as you do!!! it's not clear exactly what he means by "kicked up a good fight" -It's very possible that Sheila didn't make it clear, either- and his amazement that "she was more angry than frightened". She may well, and perfectly understandably, have been terrified but put on a brave face.

Offline APRIL

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 05:52:17 PM »
This aggravated the situation and Sheila became even more violent and abusive.


 
There were even times we could have killed each other; violence was just below the surface.

CC's book, page 10.

These are Colin's words and his interpretation of the situations. Colin appears to have been one of thes men who simply won't discuss/argue/talk when there's a dispute. There little more than a nonparticipating man which is guaranteed to irritate a woman. If "violence was just below the surface" might it have been that he was projecting his own?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 05:56:08 PM »

Dissecting his words, as you do!!! it's not clear exactly what he means by "kicked up a good fight" -It's very possible that Sheila didn't make it clear, either- and his amazement that "she was more angry than frightened". She may well, and perfectly understandably, have been terrified but put on a brave face.

No dissecting the words at all;  they're simply CC's words.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2020, 05:58:08 PM »


 
These are Colin's words and his interpretation of the situations. Colin appears to have been one of thes men who simply won't discuss/argue/talk when there's a dispute. There little more than a nonparticipating man which is guaranteed to irritate a woman. If "violence was just below the surface" might it have been that he was projecting his own?

They're not just CC's words.  The words at the top are from FE.

Two men featured in SC's life:  CC and FE and both describe her as violent.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 06:08:25 PM »
They're not just CC's words.  The words at the top are from FE.

Two men featured in SC's life:  CC and FE and both describe her as violent.
How did this violence manifest itself?  Hitting, kicking, slapping, beating with weapons, what?
Not a handwriting expert.

Offline APRIL

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2020, 06:08:45 PM »
They're not just CC's words.  The words at the top are from FE.

Two men featured in SC's life:  CC and FE and both describe her as violent.



Mmm. I recall Freddy saying that he feared for his life, but not only did he live to tell his tale, she didn't lay a finger on him. Hit herself, but didn't touch him.

As far as Colin is concerned, I believe I recall him saying that she did once hit him............in response to him hitting her.

Offline Brietta

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2020, 06:25:31 PM »
I explained the reason for starting the thread above but now you've asked:

She, had to her credit, kicked up a good fight and called him a dirty old man who ought to know better than try it on with a girl young enough to be his daughter.

What really amazed me was that she was more angry than frightened.

Page 9 CC's book.

I did read your transparent opening post .

Even Bamber described Sheila Cappell as subdued on the night he murdered her children and their parents.
Snip
Whilst I was there Sheila did not say anything, make any objections or agreements.  She just appeared vacant.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=5632.msg200222#msg200222

Sheila who was on powerful medication for schizophrenia was Bamber's chosen scapegoat for his hideous crime.

I think your efforts to perpetuate his calumny on his behalf is totally weird.




"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Violence Declines With Medication Use In Some With Schizophrenia
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2020, 06:36:33 PM »


 
These are Colin's words and his interpretation of the situations. Colin appears to have been one of thes men who simply won't discuss/argue/talk when there's a dispute. There little more than a nonparticipating man which is guaranteed to irritate a woman. If "violence was just below the surface" might it have been that he was projecting his own?

Absolutely, nothing worse than someone who just won't fight with you.  My husband had the sweetest temper when we first got married until I broke it 👿  On one occasion he ended up with a dish sitting on top of his head and the remains of a child's meal running down his face just because he was so placid and taking things in his stride.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....