New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Eleanor]

Do you think such accusations would have been allowed to stay on the forum?

Not if I was here, but sometimes I amn't.  But then John doesn't like them either.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think you're putting words into other's mouths as I see nothing which can be interpreted as accusing the McCanns of murder.

Of course you can't, despite the fact that Pathfinder believes the McCanns covered up the death of their child, in a crime which he or she refers to as a "probable murder investigation". 

In my opinion there are people on this forum who believe Madeleine did not die accidentally and that her parents covered up her death.   I don't know why my opinion should be so contentious, perhaps you can explain? 

[G-Unit]

Of course you can't, despite the fact that Pathfinder believes the McCanns covered up the death of their child, in a crime which he or she refers to as a "probable murder investigation". 

In my opinion there are people on this forum who believe Madeleine did not die accidentally and that her parents covered up her death.   I don't know why my opinion should be so contentious, perhaps you can explain?

Please make sure in future that you don't post your opinions as if they are facts. When you post about "those who claim the McCanns murdered Madeleine" you are suggesting that people actually made that claim, not that they appeared, in your opinion, to make it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Please make sure in future that you don't post your opinions as if they are facts. When you post about "those who claim the McCanns murdered Madeleine" you are suggesting that people actually made that claim, not that they appeared, in your opinion, to make it.

It was a rhetorical question that made no specific accusations about anyone on this forum.  You are in my opinion ripping the arse out of this because you have nothing else to post about. 

[John]

Did someone claim the McCanns murdered Madeleine, or is that just more hyperbole?

No and to be honest such a suggestion is preposterous imho. That said however, some people are persuaded by Gonçalo Amaral's theory that Madeleine died as a consequence of an accident in 5a. They are entitled to that opinion but in my view there is little to support it.

I am nonetheless persuaded to some extent by Angelo's theory that she wandered out of 5a and met with either an accident or was lifted outside. The scenting dogs brought in a matter of hours after she disappeared would appear to support that particular hypothesis.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No and to be honest such a suggestion is preposterous imho. That said however, some people are persuaded by Gonçalo Amaral's theory that Madeleine died as a consequence of an accident in 5a. They are entitled to that opinion but in my view there is little to support it.

I am nonetheless persuaded to some extent by Angelo's theory that she wandered out of 5a and met with either an accident or was lifted outside. The scenting dogs brought in a matter of hours after she disappeared would appear to support that particular hypothesis.

The suggestion there are individuals that believe Madeleine might have been murdered by her parents is not preposterous IMO.  The very fact that some of the sceptical persuasion are so intent on dragging up the Gaspar Statement whenever possible surely is evidence of this, is it not?   How else could the statement be in any way relevant to the case if it was not being suggested (by those who like to bring up the GS) that Madeleine died at the hands of some very unsavoury goings on, aided and abetted by at least one of her parents?

[G-Unit]

The suggestion there are individuals that believe Madeleine might have been murdered by her parents is not preposterous IMO.  The very fact that some of the sceptical persuasion are so intent on dragging up the Gaspar Statement whenever possible surely is evidence of this, is it not?   How else could the statement be in any way relevant to the case if it was not being suggested (by those who like to bring up the GS) that Madeleine died at the hands of some very unsavoury goings on, aided and abetted by at least one of her parents?

I have probably mentioned (not 'dragged up') the Gasper statements in the past, but you are wrong in your assumption that it is evidence that I'm suggesting a murder took place.

I find the Gasper statements interesting for other reasons.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I have probably mentioned (not 'dragged up') the Gasper statements in the past, but you are wrong in your assumption that it is evidence that I'm suggesting a murder took place.

I find the Gasper statements interesting for other reasons.

Why am I wrong in my assumption about the Gaspar statements then?  What other relevance does it have to the case apart from its obvious implication of paedophilia amongst the Tapas group and how that would potentially explain Madeleine's disappearance?  Just because YOU claim not to think it supports a murder taking place doesn't mean others agree with your views - you don't speak for ALL sceptics do you?

[G-Unit]

Why am I wrong in my assumption about the Gaspar statements then?  What other relevance does it have to the case apart from its obvious implication of paedophilia amongst the Tapas group and how that would potentially explain Madeleine's disappearance?  Just because YOU claim not to think it supports a murder taking place doesn't mean others agree with your views - you don't speak for ALL sceptics do you?

It's you who seem to think you know what ALL sceptics, especially those who refer to the Gasper statements, are thinking. You don't, and it's time you accepted that and stopped posting your misbegotten opinions as facts. Please ensure in future that you have cites before you make accusations. This discussion is now closed as it's off topic, so any other posts on the subject will be deleted.

[Brietta]

I have probably mentioned (not 'dragged up') the Gasper statements in the past, but you are wrong in your assumption that it is evidence that I'm suggesting a murder took place.

I find the Gasper statements interesting for other reasons.

The Gaspar statement married with the Martin statement and CATS have been used for many years to smear named individuals with imputations of paedophilia.
Now that we have a real paedophile added into the equation in the form of Brueckner it apparently makes no odds to those who muse over an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy because it is considered 'interesting'.

The word I would use for that is 'revealing'.

[G-Unit]

The Gaspar statement married with the Martin statement and CATS have been used for many years to smear named individuals with imputations of paedophilia.
Now that we have a real paedophile added into the equation in the form of Brueckner it apparently makes no odds to those who muse over an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy because it is considered 'interesting'.

The word I would use for that is 'revealing'.

I don't know anything about "an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy". I was referring to  statements which were sent to the PJ in October 2007, despite having been given to the UK police in May 2007.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

That's one of the things about the statements which make them interesting, by the way.

[Eleanor]

I don't know anything about "an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy". I was referring to  statements which were sent to the PJ in October 2007, despite having been given to the UK police in May 2007.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

That's one of the things about the statements which make them interesting, by the way.

Particularly because The Doctors Gaspar didn't agree with each other.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't know anything about "an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy". I was referring to  statements which were sent to the PJ in October 2007, despite having been given to the UK police in May 2007.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

That's one of the things about the statements which make them interesting, by the way.

“ This discussion is now closed as it's off topic, so any other posts on the subject will be deleted.”. but only if they’re by VS obviously.

[G-Unit]

“ This discussion is now closed as it's off topic, so any other posts on the subject will be deleted.”. but only if they’re by VS obviously.

It's a different discussion.

[Brietta]

I don't know anything about "an unsupported statement posted on the internet by Levy". I was referring to  statements which were sent to the PJ in October 2007, despite having been given to the UK police in May 2007.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATERINA-PAYNE-INCIDENT.htm

That's one of the things about the statements which make them interesting, by the way.

That is not the original statement given to an English police officer in English is it?