New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

They are presumed innocent in law until proven otherwise beyond all reasonable doubt. People are entitled to make their own presumptions. However that carries no weight in law.

My comment was in relation to those bleating about the paedo/rapist’s entitlement to the presumption of innocence who seem less keen to extend the same presumption to the McCanns.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

My comment was in relation to those blestimg about the paedo/rapist’s entitlement to the presumption of innocence who seem less keen to extend the same presumption to the McCanns.

Like I said the presumption exists in law.... What people presume with their own personal opinion is up to them.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Like I said the presumption exists in law.... What people presume with their own personal opinion is up to them.

And my comment was about hypocrisy and double standards.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

And my comment was about hypocrisy and double standards.

I'm sure you presume some to be innocent and some to be guilty prior to a trial. It's not hypocrisy - it just our own bias. In law though ALL must be presumed innocent and only judged on the evidence presented in a court of law.

[Eleanor]

I'm sure you presume some to be innocent and some to be guilty prior to a trial. It's not hypocrisy - it just our own bias. In law though ALL must be presumed innocent and only judged on the evidence presented in a court of law.

You presume too much sometimes.  I have no idea if this German man is guilty.

However, as far as The McCanns are concerned it has been 13 years with nary a hint of proof of any kind.

[jassi]

If you don't look, then you don't find.

[Eleanor]

If you don't look, then you don't find.

You think I didn't look?  Have you looked?  Have you found any?

As it happens and to my shame, I thought in the beginning that The McCanns probably were involved.  Until I began to Look.  And then my inherent Common Sense and Logic kicked in.

And of course, I then remembered that I had left my children alone on occasions, so you can scrub that one.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

You presume too much sometimes.  I have no idea if this German man is guilty.

However, as far as The McCanns are concerned it has been 13 years with nary a hint of proof of any kind.

I’m open minded. My suspicion based on what we know is that MM died in 5A but as to the circumstances I’m open to a number of possibilities.

[Mr Gray]

I’m open minded. My suspicion based on what we know is that MM died in 5A but as to the circumstances I’m open to a number of possibilities.

There is nothing if any degree of certainty that Maddie died in 5a... It's possible... That's all

[faithlilly]

Heaven forgive me for posting an article from the Sun but even dozy Dave is getting in on the act.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11834873/madeleine-mccann-probably-still-alive-cop-suspect-innocent/

[Brietta]

Just a polite reminder.  The topic of this thread concerns ... New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.  It has nothing to do with anything other than that so please stick to the thread topic.  Thank you

[Wonderfulspam]

Heaven forgive me for posting an article from the Sun but even dozy Dave is getting in on the act.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11834873/madeleine-mccann-probably-still-alive-cop-suspect-innocent/

“I don’t work on speculation. I work on hard evidence. I’m not talking about some circumstantial evidence and speculation – I’m talking about evidence you would be confident enough taking into court." -Dave Edgar


.....and yet he's certain Maddie was abducted!

[Gertrude]

I’m open minded. My suspicion based on what we know is that MM died in 5A but as to the circumstances I’m open to a number of possibilities.

Yes a suspicion. just as the German prosecutor has said in some translations 'I think', 'I believe' and 'I personally think that she was killed a short time after she disappeared,"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/11/madeleine-mccann-case-police-portugal-remain-convinced-parents/#:~:text=It%20was%20Mr%20Wolters%20who,the%20Portuguese%20police%20when%20appropriate.

It's fine for him to have suspicions and believe these things and actually base a multi-national appeal on it.

[Eleanor]

I’m open minded. My suspicion based on what we know is that MM died in 5A but as to the circumstances I’m open to a number of possibilities.

We don't actually Know anything.  But there would still have been a body to dispose of.

I am saying nothing about the German Geezer.  It is beginning to look as though The German Judiciary are as clueless as The PJ.

[G-Unit]

Heaven forgive me for posting an article from the Sun but even dozy Dave is getting in on the act.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11834873/madeleine-mccann-probably-still-alive-cop-suspect-innocent/

I think he has a cheek criticising the Germans when he doesn't know what evidence they have.

He says "without a body, it is very likely somebody took Madeleine away and is still keeping her alive." What about a body which wasn't found?

Also; “If it wasn’t detected in the first year then it’s going to be very difficult to detect after that, unless you’ve got some sort of hard evidence – i.e. – forensic evidence or identifications that are going to stand up."  Why then did he get involved two years after the event, I wonder?

As to the 'leads' he pursued; they were very tenuous in my opinion.