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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4290 on: July 01, 2020, 03:13:47 PM »

Makes you wonder what have they been spending the money on...when it seems the Germans are making all the appeals.

Wonder if the SY will still be getting more money - seeing CB is supposed to be there man

Yes I was wandering whether further funds will be forthcoming.  Since they've only recently secured another tranche I guess we'll have to wait until next year!  (^&&
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4291 on: July 01, 2020, 03:15:20 PM »
Population of PDL is 3.5k.

MET officers assigned to case at peak is 80.

3.5k/80 = 43.75 residents per officer.  Meaning every resident could potentially have been interviewed.

Have the police ever confirmed his name?
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Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4292 on: July 01, 2020, 03:16:23 PM »
I think that OG are not quite up to speed.

It was the Germans that announced that Madeleine was dead, even though OG were sitting on the fence -( well what else could they do without upsetting the McCanns), but the Germans went ahead and still made the announcement, and apparently without giving much thought to the McCanns .
They don't appear to have given any thought to the Portuguese either.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 03:18:33 PM by jassi »
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4293 on: July 01, 2020, 03:19:17 PM »
Have the police ever confirmed his name?

No.  Afaik against the law to do so. 

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11633.msg601327#msg601327
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4294 on: July 01, 2020, 03:20:23 PM »
Have the police ever confirmed his name?

No, German police had actually said very little, though it managed to set the cat among the pigeons.  Media frenzy has provided the rest, much of which seems unconfirmed.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4295 on: July 01, 2020, 03:21:24 PM »
Population of PDL is 3.5k.

MET officers assigned to case at peak is 80.

3.5k/80 = 43.75 residents per officer.  Meaning every resident could potentially have been interviewed.

Would they have neded 3.5k Ilors...would them PJ have given permission..would the Pj have agreed to accompany them as Sy are not allowed to ask questions directly...was CB still living there.....
Your ideas get dafter and dafter

Offline Anthro

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4296 on: July 01, 2020, 03:21:56 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-22282633
On German television tonight.

‘Mr Cerne gave a preview of what will be revealed on Wednesday night's programme.

He told Focus: "The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the German suspect's cellphone’.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4297 on: July 01, 2020, 03:23:33 PM »
More information about the phone call expected to be revealed on German TV tonight...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-22282633

https://www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/rudi-cerne-im-interview-mit-focus-online-habe-eindruck-dass-was-wichtiges-passiert-fall-maddie-erneut-bei-aktenzeichen-xy_id_12160026.html

Rough translation of the above report...

Just four weeks after the spectacular turning point in the Maddie McCann case, the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) is again a guest on Rudi Cerne's program "Case number XY ... unresolved". The BKA suspects a German of murdering Maddie. FOCUS Online asked the moderator what the show is about.

At the beginning of June, the ZDF program "Aktenzeichen XY ... unresolved" made a spectacular change in the Maddie case: 13 years after the British girl's disappearance in Portugal, the Federal Criminal Police Office is certain that a German killed the three-year-old. Prosecutors are still lacking sufficient evidence to prosecute Christian B. On Wednesday, July 1st, the program will once again be live on ZDF at 20.15.

FOCUS Online: Mr. Cerne, a month after the spectacular turn of the investigation in the Maddie case, the disappearance of the three-year-old British girl is on the program again. Is there anything new? What will the show be about on July 1st?

Rudi Cerne: The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the suspect's German cell phone. Not even an hour before Maddie left. The call also came from the same place where the little girl was last seen alive, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve.

FOCUS Online: The phone number is known, all media have published it. What's behind it?

Cerne: The principle of “constant drops hollows the stone”. I still remember one of the first file number programs I did in 2004. A little girl had also disappeared there, Levke Straßmann from Cuxhaven. There were also three broadcasts on this case about her disappearance, which could then be solved thanks to numerous pointers.
"Case number XY" on the Maddie case "caused an enormous echo"

FOCUS Online: The investigators are under pressure, because on the one hand they suspected murder, but so far have not provided sufficient evidence to substantiate this suspicion. Sounds like a desperate search for the famous needle in a haystack.

Cerne: I see this very pragmatically and am very excited about what the BKA will report and ask on Wednesday. The show a month ago generated an enormous echo. 18 BKA employees were on the phone and have picked up almost 1000 information from the population. I have the impression that something important is happening now.

FOCUS Online: You have an enormous experience in the presentation of unsolved criminal cases. What exactly makes you so sure?

Cerne: I'm not an investigator. But I know that they work through every single clue, no matter what. If you get the same information over and over again, then listen carefully. That is why they are now looking for public help again. Apparently, this phone number, which was called on the suspect's cell phone shortly before Maddie's disappearance, plays a very large role in the investigation. I could imagine that the BKA needs all information about who owned this prepaid number, who called it, who called it. Every little note counts - and is processed.

FOCUS Online: In 2013 you presented the case to the German public for the first time. At that time, Maddie's parents were there. Did the huge public interest surprise you after the recent turnaround?

Cerne: Indeed, the huge amount of attention surprised me. But I also have to say that this case has generated a very special media interest right from the start. And in 2013, we even had more than 1,000 notices, the first of which arrived before the program even started. This case moves all of Europe.

The program "File number XY ... unresolved" will be broadcast live on ZDF on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4298 on: July 01, 2020, 03:24:25 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-22282633
On German television tonight.

‘Mr Cerne gave a preview of what will be revealed on Wednesday night's programme.

He told Focus: "The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the German suspect's cellphone’.

Previously  we have been told that it was the suspect who was called
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/30-minute-phone-call-police-22189069
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 03:43:18 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4299 on: July 01, 2020, 04:03:51 PM »
at least they call him the new suspect ...plenty of old ones though.

I believe the phone number was from a notebook IIRC from a previous suspect.

They can't seem to make their minds up who made the call. or whos phone it is.

this will probably be another appeal for information.

He added: "We don't have the body and no parts of the body, but we have enough evidence to say our suspect killed Madeleine McCann.


An yet they haven't charged him.... what a rigmarole

Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4300 on: July 01, 2020, 04:14:25 PM »
Hopefully the Met isn't putting all its eggs in one basket and becoming tunnel visioned.  Or worse still its going to result in an innocent (of this crime) man going to prison.  He might have previous but whether or not he committed this crime is a different matter.

An appeal was made re two tel numbers and two vehicles one of which was a Jag.  Which Jag are the public on the look out for: Burgundy or Black?

See bottom of link:

http://news.met.police.uk/news/operation-grange-update-and-appeal-403826

Given the  high level of proof required for a murder conviction in Germany (i.e. a body), I think it's more likely that a guilty person would get off than an innocent one be falsely accused.

As for the cars, it looks like the picture with 2 cars is just a stock photo exemplifying the model. A bit confusing though, I agree - echoes of the two side-by-side, totally different looking mugshots released of Smithman!
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 04:18:09 PM by Sherlock Holmes »

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4301 on: July 01, 2020, 04:33:59 PM »
Well, Holmes, they've managed to eek out a decent revenue line for 13 years, so maybe the game isn't as afoot as was first asserted.

And if they even charge CB with this I'll donate my remaining kidney to a worthy recipient. You can take that to the bank.
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Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4302 on: July 01, 2020, 04:39:20 PM »
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-22282633
On German television tonight.

‘Mr Cerne gave a preview of what will be revealed on Wednesday night's programme.

He told Focus: "The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the German suspect's cellphone’.

The phone number OG appealed information on is not in the pj files, so where did they get it from?
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4303 on: July 01, 2020, 04:40:43 PM »
More information about the phone call expected to be revealed on German TV tonight...

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspect-made-call-22282633

https://www.focus.de/kultur/kino_tv/rudi-cerne-im-interview-mit-focus-online-habe-eindruck-dass-was-wichtiges-passiert-fall-maddie-erneut-bei-aktenzeichen-xy_id_12160026.html

Rough translation of the above report...

Just four weeks after the spectacular turning point in the Maddie McCann case, the Federal Criminal Police Office (BKA) is again a guest on Rudi Cerne's program "Case number XY ... unresolved". The BKA suspects a German of murdering Maddie. FOCUS Online asked the moderator what the show is about.

At the beginning of June, the ZDF program "Aktenzeichen XY ... unresolved" made a spectacular change in the Maddie case: 13 years after the British girl's disappearance in Portugal, the Federal Criminal Police Office is certain that a German killed the three-year-old. Prosecutors are still lacking sufficient evidence to prosecute Christian B. On Wednesday, July 1st, the program will once again be live on ZDF at 20.15.

FOCUS Online: Mr. Cerne, a month after the spectacular turn of the investigation in the Maddie case, the disappearance of the three-year-old British girl is on the program again. Is there anything new? What will the show be about on July 1st?

Rudi Cerne: The only thing I can say at the moment is that this also includes the telephone number of the Portuguese prepaid card that was called from the suspect's German cell phone. Not even an hour before Maddie left. The call also came from the same place where the little girl was last seen alive, in Praia da Luz in the Algarve.

FOCUS Online: The phone number is known, all media have published it. What's behind it?

Cerne: The principle of “constant drops hollows the stone”. I still remember one of the first file number programs I did in 2004. A little girl had also disappeared there, Levke Straßmann from Cuxhaven. There were also three broadcasts on this case about her disappearance, which could then be solved thanks to numerous pointers.
"Case number XY" on the Maddie case "caused an enormous echo"

FOCUS Online: The investigators are under pressure, because on the one hand they suspected murder, but so far have not provided sufficient evidence to substantiate this suspicion. Sounds like a desperate search for the famous needle in a haystack.

Cerne: I see this very pragmatically and am very excited about what the BKA will report and ask on Wednesday. The show a month ago generated an enormous echo. 18 BKA employees were on the phone and have picked up almost 1000 information from the population. I have the impression that something important is happening now.

FOCUS Online: You have an enormous experience in the presentation of unsolved criminal cases. What exactly makes you so sure?

Cerne: I'm not an investigator. But I know that they work through every single clue, no matter what. If you get the same information over and over again, then listen carefully. That is why they are now looking for public help again. Apparently, this phone number, which was called on the suspect's cell phone shortly before Maddie's disappearance, plays a very large role in the investigation. I could imagine that the BKA needs all information about who owned this prepaid number, who called it, who called it. Every little note counts - and is processed.

FOCUS Online: In 2013 you presented the case to the German public for the first time. At that time, Maddie's parents were there. Did the huge public interest surprise you after the recent turnaround?

Cerne: Indeed, the huge amount of attention surprised me. But I also have to say that this case has generated a very special media interest right from the start. And in 2013, we even had more than 1,000 notices, the first of which arrived before the program even started. This case moves all of Europe.

The program "File number XY ... unresolved" will be broadcast live on ZDF on Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:15 p.m.


Thanks Myster.

What I'm struggling to understand is that CB lived mainly in Portugal between 1995 - 2007 so why the emphasis on appealing for info on TV shows aired in Germany?  Surely his associates/acquaintances at the time are more likely to have been within the Portuguese community in Portugal? 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline jassi

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #4304 on: July 01, 2020, 04:43:00 PM »
Thanks Myster.

What I'm struggling to understand is that CB lived mainly in Portugal between 1995 - 2007 so why the emphasis on appealing for info on TV shows aired in Germany?  Surely his associates/acquaintances at the time are more likely to have been within the Portuguese community in Portugal?

Perhaps the Germans are looking at the bigger picture &  Madeleine is only a part of their investigations
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future