New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I googled libel defence and opinion....

"Honest opinion It can be used as a defence to defamation claims if the defendant can show that: that the statement in question was an opinion; that within the statement there was an apparent basis to the opinion; and. the statement is one that an honest person could have held."

I don't believe either you or Kizzy have been libellous in expressing an opinion that there was no abduction & that K&G know what happened to MM or expressing an opinion that CB was the abductor.

In which case could you inform the forum owner that we can write whatever we like about the McCanns, Grime, Bruckner, Amaral, etc and not receive points for libel.  Much obliged.

[Mr Gray]

I googled libel defence and opinion....

"Honest opinion It can be used as a defence to defamation claims if the defendant can show that: that the statement in question was an opinion; that within the statement there was an apparent basis to the opinion; and. the statement is one that an honest person could have held."

I don't believe either you or Kizzy have been libellous in expressing an opinion that there was no abduction & that K&G know what happened to MM or expressing an opinion that CB was the abductor.

well tahts fine if you want...kizzy is free to say what  she thinks happened...please go ahead Kizzy

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I have  a private car park that some locals park on. Im thinking of putting up  signs explaining charges are made to anyone parking there....what do you think...Parking charges can be enforced but not fines

Correct. You can issue parking charges. The word "fine" would not be correct and if you pursued the registered keeper rather than the driver you would have to abide by the terms laid out in Schedule 9 of the Protection of Freedoms Act.... but that's a bit off topic... PM me if you need advice.

[Vertigo Swirl]

“In my opinion Gerry carried a corpse through PdL and chucked it in a bin”.

OK, that’s a perfectly reasonable comment.

Next?

[Mr Gray]

I googled libel defence and opinion....

"Honest opinion It can be used as a defence to defamation claims if the defendant can show that: that the statement in question was an opinion; that within the statement there was an apparent basis to the opinion; and. the statement is one that an honest person could have held."

I don't believe either you or Kizzy have been libellous in expressing an opinion that there was no abduction & that K&G know what happened to MM or expressing an opinion that CB was the abductor.

the basis for the opinion must be stated and..The facts on which the comment is made must be sufficiently or substantially true,


kizzy hasnt given any facts to support her argument that are sufficiently or substantially true

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

In which case could you inform the forum owner that we can write whatever we like about the McCanns, Grime, Bruckner, Amaral, etc and not receive points for libel.  Much obliged.

You can't do that. You can't write libellous comments. You can write reasonable honest opinion if you can support your view with reasonable evidence and demonstrate it is reasonable for an honest person to have that opinion.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Cite please.

 Reply #158 on: August 14, 2018, 11:11:37 AM »

[Mr Gray]

You can't do that. You can't write libellous comments. You can write reasonable honest opinion if you can support your view with reasonable evidence and demonstrate it is reasonable for an honest person to have that opinion.

The evidence needs to be  sufficiently or substantially true, thats the problem. where are these facts supporting the involvement of the McCanns...the newspapers have already paid out

[Vertigo Swirl]

Reply #158 on: August 14, 2018, 11:11:37 AM »

That is not a cite.  Cite please.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You can't do that. You can't write libellous comments. You can write reasonable honest opinion if you can support your view with reasonable evidence and demonstrate it is reasonable for an honest person to have that opinion.

Is this a libellous comment?
“In my opinion Gerry carried a corpse through PdL and chucked it in a bin”.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

The evidence needs to be  sufficiently or substantially true, thats the problem. where are these facts supporting the involvement of the McCanns...the newspapers have already paid out

and Amaral won his case regarding the book.

You could listen to Mark Saunokonoko's podcasts which are well researched and, imo, reasonable, rational and honest. On the basis of listening to those podcasts you could reasonably and honestly state that you don't believe MM was abducted and you do believe the parents know what happened to her. You could read Amaral's book and base your opinions on the fact that he was a lead investigator in the case. You can read the PJ Files and even the summary as the PJ closed the investigations and have reasonable and honest opinion that there was no abduction.

[Mr Gray]

and Amaral won his case regarding the book.

You could listen to Mark Saunokonoko's podcasts which are well researched and, imo, reasonable, rational and honest. On the basis of listening to those podcasts you could reasonably and honestly state that you don't believe MM was abducted and you do believe the parents know what happened to her. You could read Amaral's book and base your opinions on the fact that he was a lead investigator in the case. You can read the PJ Files and even the summary as the PJ closed the investigations and have reasonable and honest opinion that there was no abduction.

Amaral won his case in Portugal... You cant have as a defence that you are gullible  and believe total bull

[Vertigo Swirl]

and Amaral won his case regarding the book.

You could listen to Mark Saunokonoko's podcasts which are well researched and, imo, reasonable, rational and honest. On the basis of listening to those podcasts you could reasonably and honestly state that you don't believe MM was abducted and you do believe the parents know what happened to her. You could read Amaral's book and base your opinions on the fact that he was a lead investigator in the case. You can read the PJ Files and even the summary as the PJ closed the investigations and have reasonable and honest opinion that there was no abduction.

Why did Bennett come a cropper then?

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

That is not a cite.  Cite please.

Yes it is.

It is clear from the post she is forming a reasonable opinion based on statements from the lead investigator in the case.

[Mr Gray]

Yes it is.

It is clear from the post she is forming a reasonable opinion based on statements from the lead investigator in the case.

Who was sacked..as I said...believing total bull is not a defence...as VS pointed out.... Bennett was advised to settle