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Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5655 on: July 20, 2020, 09:46:16 AM »
No ... I am saying THE EXACT OPPOSITE.  Please read my posts with just a little less blinkered opinion to verify that.

How is it the exact opposite.....and do you have to shout.

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5656 on: July 20, 2020, 09:48:43 AM »
How is it the exact opposite.....and do you have to shout.

It seems I do.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5657 on: July 20, 2020, 10:00:16 AM »
There's something wrong with his jaw, whether left or right... maybe you just don't see it.  His left eye has also gone AWOL in the contemporary Italian mugshot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8538057/Portuguese-police-mugshots-Christian-Brueckner-1999-reveal-officers-knew-sordid-past.html

Is he attempting to reduce his height in the photograph by flexing his knees ... or are his legs naturally bandy?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2020, 10:02:39 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5658 on: July 20, 2020, 10:10:52 AM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8538057/Portuguese-police-mugshots-Christian-Brueckner-1999-reveal-officers-knew-sordid-past.html

Is he attempting to reduce his height in the photograph by flexing his knees ... or are his legs naturally bandy?

Looks more like the trouses baggy around knees ..perhaps from sitting.

Offline Carana

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5659 on: July 20, 2020, 10:41:02 AM »
When considering SF we must never forget that she did the ‘ask the dogs’ interview with the parents long after she knew what was in the files and was ‘taken for a ride’ by Amaral. If she knew there was nothing in the allegations against them why give them such a hard time ?

Being asked to take part in the Netflix documentary does seem to have hastened her road to Damascus moment....before that she really hadn’t been part of the case narrative for years.

If she was such a bad journalist when she harangued the parents do you really think that she’s got any better...or is she simply making the most of the opportunities sent her way ?

She was interviewed on a PT TV show relatively soon after the archiving report was made public, in which she was critical of the investigation. I'm not sure if it was before or after the "ask-the-dogs" interview (Nov 09), but it was around that time.






Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5660 on: July 20, 2020, 10:59:48 AM »
I laud her for wanting to get to the truth (whatever it may turn out to be), but I just hope she doesn't inadvertently screw up what seems to be a highly complex investigation broadcasting details that need to be kept quiet for the moment.

I see she's also wondering about Joana. That white house with the blue window frames was 15 mins by car from where she disappeared without a trace on her way home.

And Rui Pedro who disappeared in 98. He was later identified on a child porn site, poor lad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rui_Pedro_Teixeira_Mendon%C3%A7a

"I laud her for wanting to get to the truth (whatever it may turn out to be), but I just hope she doesn't inadvertently screw up what seems to be a highly complex investigation broadcasting details that need to be kept quiet for the moment. "


I agree with this, she does need to be careful.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5661 on: July 20, 2020, 11:17:12 AM »

"I laud her for wanting to get to the truth (whatever it may turn out to be), but I just hope she doesn't inadvertently screw up what seems to be a highly complex investigation broadcasting details that need to be kept quiet for the moment. "


I agree with this, she does need to be careful.

It's good to have a Portuguese journalist who has understands the reality of the initial investigation and is searching for the truth.....even to the extent she questions the guilt of Cipriano

Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5662 on: July 21, 2020, 12:20:12 AM »
From that distance away I'm not surprised she did not recognise Totman because she turned left on to the pathway and did not pass Gerry or Jez IMO.

This is interesting in the McCanns first statements about Jane's sighting. They believe she saw the man when she left the tapas entrance and got onto the street i.e. from a long distance away.

"It is emphasised that one of the members of the group, Jane, at about 21.10 - 21.15 when she was going to her apartment to check on her children, she saw from the back, at a distance of about 50 metres, on the road bordering the club, an individual from the rear end;  carrying a child, wearing pyjamas, Jane will be able to clarify this situation."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

"Later, a member of the group, Russell's partner Jane, when she went to her apartment to see her children at around 9.15pm, saw from the back [rear] about 50 metres away, on the perimeter road of the club, a long-haired person, in what she thinks were jeans, with a child in his arms and walking very quickly. But she is better able to tell you about that herself."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

No Jane Tanner did NOT turn left on to the pathway.  She passed Gerry and Jez.   Please do not keep passing on Amarals untrue theory as the truth.  The man is a proven liar and by passing such disinformation on, Pathfinder, you are going down the same route.

In one of the statements, Jane Tanner saw Tannerman plus ?Madeleine? from only about 5 metres away initially.   I will grant that the lighting was not very good and Jane saw the side view of his face, hence the fact that Jane chose not to put a face on Tannerman. 
Please also note that after he crossed the road, Jane saw Tannerman carry on along the pavement of R.Agostinho in an easterly direction

In order to reach the perimeter entrance to his flat, Dr Totman, after appearing around the corner, would have had to turn south down Rua Francisco.  In other words he would have been going the opposite way to Jane for a while (face to Face) yet Tanner man went along R Agostinho in an easterly direction


Because of this anomaly in directions walked, we know that Dr Totman was NOT Tannerman.
There is a big time difference between Tannerman and Dr Totman too.

And from various statements and a video (Cutting Edge) we know that Jane walked the whole length up Rua Francisco to Rua Agostinho before going left.


Offline sadie

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5663 on: July 21, 2020, 03:40:00 AM »
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From that distance away I'm not surprised she did not recognise Totman because she turned left on to the pathway and did not pass Gerry or Jez IMO.

This is interesting in the McCanns first statements about Jane's sighting. They believe she saw the man when she left the tapas entrance and got onto the street i.e. from a long distance away.

"It is emphasised that one of the members of the group, Jane, at about 21.10 - 21.15 when she was going to her apartment to check on her children, she saw from the back, at a distance of about 50 metres, on the road bordering the club, an individual from the rear end;  carrying a child, wearing pyjamas, Jane will be able to clarify this situation."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN.htm

"Later, a member of the group, Russell's partner Jane, when she went to her apartment to see her children at around 9.15pm, saw from the back [rear] about 50 metres away, on the perimeter road of the club, a long-haired person, in what she thinks were jeans, with a child in his arms and walking very quickly. But she is better able to tell you about that herself."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm
  Please note:  For emphasis,  I have enlarged the last words in both Gerry and Kates statements

FGS Pathfinder.  You are desperate aren't you? ... to quote third party descriptions, twice repeated, of what Jane saw

You take third party descriptions given by sleep deprived, emotionally drained and exhausted Gerry and kate ( after they had been up virtually all night worrying and searching) of what Jane saw.  This is NOT what Kate or Gerry saw.  You take these third party descriptions rather than the ones from Jane herself!  Why ? 

What ever is the matter with you that you feel the need to give such stuff out when you have seen on The Cutting Edge Video Jane speaking and showing exactly what happened and must know it is disinformation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkc3C6csaHI
@ about 10.08 onwards

Ah well!!  Surprise, Surprise !!       Someone has done something to the video and it wont work, but it left the space .   8(>((

More cheating by some one who cant bear the truth to come out, I suppose ?




Anyway Janes Rogatory statement says it all.  Her own words, not someone elses and in Kate and Gerrys case at least twice repeated … in other words nothing more than Chinese Whispers... and from a couple, Kate and Gerry who were totally exhausted and merely repeating hearsay.  THEY BOTH SAID TO SPEAK TO JANE ABOUT IT.  Why did you ignore that?



https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE_TANNER_RIGATORY.htm

 -snip-  4078    “How far away from you were they at the closest point?” [re the man and the carried child]

Reply    “Phew, as, I mean, it’s hard to, sort of thing, but I think I was sort of halfway, it’s probably sort of five metres, I mean, I’m trying to sort of think in terms of this room, but sort of probably just further than that wall, probably sort of five to ten metres id’ say, if, I don’t know how far it is to there, but”.

 

4078    “I would say probably about, I am just guessing, but two and a half to three metres?”

Reply    “Yeah, I’d probably say sort of five, five to ten metres, well probably five, nearer five”.  -snip-

So Pathfimder, you chose to believe the two statements that were relayed by a secondary person twice at least [Chinese Whispers] rather than a video showing Jane in person very deliberately pointing out where she saw Gerry and Jez . 

You have seen this video, Pathfinder, it has been played numerous times on this forum before.   You saw her walk straight up the road to the top where she saw Tannerman and ?Madeleine? crossing and going in an easterly direction along Rua Agostinho.  Jane did NOT go along the back pathway as you keep saying.  Please desist.

And now you have the Rogatory statement with Jane HERSELF saying how she was only about 5 - 10 metres away from this man when she saw him, NOT 50 metres.



I hope and trust that you will not try it on again, repeating all your disinformation in a few months/ years time.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5664 on: July 21, 2020, 04:23:51 AM »

Ah well!!  Surprise, Surprise !!       Someone has done something to the video and it wont work, but it left the space .   8(>((

More cheating by some one who cant bear the truth to come out, I suppose ?


Less of the paranoia, if you please!
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5665 on: July 21, 2020, 04:36:17 AM »
No Jane Tanner did NOT turn left on to the pathway.  She passed Gerry and Jez.   Please do not keep passing on Amarals untrue theory as the truth.  The man is a proven liar and by passing such disinformation on, Pathfinder, you are going down the same route.

In one of the statements, Jane Tanner saw Tannerman plus ?Madeleine? from only about 5 metres away initially.   I will grant that the lighting was not very good and Jane saw the side view of his face, hence the fact that Jane chose not to put a face on Tannerman. 
Please also note that after he crossed the road, Jane saw Tannerman carry on along the pavement of R.Agostinho in an easterly direction

In order to reach the perimeter entrance to his flat, Dr Totman, after appearing around the corner, would have had to turn south down Rua Francisco.  In other words he would have been going the opposite way to Jane for a while (face to Face) yet Tanner man went along R Agostinho in an easterly direction

Because of this anomaly in directions walked, we know that Dr Totman was NOT Tannerman.
There is a big time difference between Tannerman and Dr Totman too.

And from various statements and a video (Cutting Edge) we know that Jane walked the whole length up Rua Francisco to Rua Agostinho before going left.
Crikey!  Not like me... A post of yours I actually agree with.  My gnarly old Blue Peter badge is winging its way to you (via OGHQ) in a matching blue envelope.  Hope it arrives, unlike some others.

Redwood was desperate to shift attention onto Smithman, so avoided explaining why Totman was going in the opposite direction to which he should have been. Obviously all imo.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5666 on: July 21, 2020, 08:16:14 AM »
From the Mail today it looks like the Germans are patiently building their case against Breukner

Offline Eleanor

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5667 on: July 21, 2020, 08:32:23 AM »
Crikey!  Not like me... A post of yours I actually agree with.  My gnarly old Blue Peter badge is winging its way to you (via OGHQ) in a matching blue envelope.  Hope it arrives, unlike some others.

Redwood was desperate to shift attention onto Smithman, so avoided explaining why Totman was going in the opposite direction to which he should have been. Obviously all imo.

I wonder if Redwood just didn't understand the lay out of Luz.  Anyone who had been at this for as long as I had instantly spotted that if it was Dr. Totman then he was going in the wrong direction.

There was also the time lapse between approximately 9.15 and 10pm when Smithman was seen, although this wouldn't have been all that difficult to explain if it had been considered.

Offline barrier

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5668 on: July 21, 2020, 08:50:54 AM »
Thats it then,he said they said,caveat its in the sun amd mail,go to be true.

.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8543033/German-police-solved-90-cent-Madeleine-McCann-case.html
Mr Fehlinger - a former ambulance driver - told The Sun: 'They said they had 90 per cent solved the case and seemed very confident.
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: New German suspect in Madeleine McCann mystery disappearance.
« Reply #5669 on: July 21, 2020, 08:53:35 AM »
Thats it then,he said they said,caveat its in the sun amd mail,go to be true.

.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8543033/German-police-solved-90-cent-Madeleine-McCann-case.html
Mr Fehlinger - a former ambulance driver - told The Sun: 'They said they had 90 per cent solved the case and seemed very confident.


I dont simply go by whats in the paper....I put all the info available together and then draw a conclusion